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SpaceX wants to launch 100k more Starlink satellites for 100x the bandwidth

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Post by newsoftheday »

digitaltrees wrote: post #379

I have started to see what I think are star link satellites at night on walks with my kids. It actually makes me sad to see that on person owns the night sky and is changing the literal stars my kids will grow up with. It feels different when it’s the government that theoretically represents people but when it’s one person that feels truly depressing.

I'm the opposite, I feel more depressed when the government controls our lives instead of hard working people who've proven themselves in the marketplace.

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Post by singingtoday »

sidcool wrote: post #670
mparramon wrote: post #450

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like him! :D

I don't like him. I don't hate him either. He's not a thing in my life. But the companies are, SpaceX etc. do impact me. Basically I would hate to see HN become Reddit.

It's definitely happening

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Post by ThrowawayTestr »

dawnerd wrote: post #191
spullara wrote: post #108

I think most of this thread is missing the part where this will also work for cellphones and give you truly global coverage.

* only when you’re outdoors with good line of sight and only in geographic areas they allow.

That's usually how satellites work.

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Post by estearum »

newsoftheday wrote: post #771
digitaltrees wrote: post #379

I have started to see what I think are star link satellites at night on walks with my kids. It actually makes me sad to see that on person owns the night sky and is changing the literal stars my kids will grow up with. It feels different when it’s the government that theoretically represents people but when it’s one person that feels truly depressing.

I'm the opposite, I feel more depressed when the government controls our lives instead of hard working people who've proven themselves in the marketplace.

You know the point of democracy is that the government is also run by people who've proven themselves in a marketplace, right? It's just one where having more money doesn't entitle you to vastly more power, which is, you know... one well-established failure mode even of private marketplaces...

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Post by diddid »

esperent wrote: post #387
diddid wrote: post #180

I think the end game is convenience. Nobody really needs anything more than 200mb/s. If the average person can have their entire family stream their favorite Netflix show at the same time then that’s good enough. “Now lil Jimmy can watch it in the minivan too!”

I remember ~20 years ago upgrading my house line to get something crazy like 0.5mbs and the sales guy telling me that I didn't really need it and was wasting money upgrading from my current ~0.2mbs. Those numbers are fudged of course, I don't remember exactly how long ago or from what to what I was upgrading. My point is that we've always been having people say you don't need faster internet. And yet, I still want, a…

I doubt you are the average consumer though. Now days I think the biggest average consumer use case is streaming and game downloading, with game downloading being the biggest “I want it now!” impulse. But do you need 1gb service to download that call of duty game every year? I even think most people could get by with 50mb/s and not even know as long as the latency keeps up. If it’s fast enough to stream Bluey the masses are content.

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

consumer451 wrote: post #5

When Starlink first became available here in poor-ish Central-EU, I was excited. Then, only months later, but after years of planning: EU funding brought fiber to my farm area, at ~$25/900mbps 10ms. While my story is just n=1, I don't understand the huge upside for Starlink outside of Africa or India, where they have However, I am dumb, and very open to be convinced.

There's a market for it, think internet on vacation, on ships, trains, planes, and underdeveloped / remote areas (some of which skipped wired internet entirely and just have 3/4/5G).

But you're also showing a lot of bias and ignorance towards Africa and India and their financial means.

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Post by TheSkyHasEyes »

consumer451 wrote: post #5

When Starlink first became available here in poor-ish Central-EU, I was excited. Then, only months later, but after years of planning: EU funding brought fiber to my farm area, at ~$25/900mbps 10ms. While my story is just n=1, I don't understand the huge upside for Starlink outside of Africa or India, where they have However, I am dumb, and very open to be convinced.

> I don't understand the huge upside for Starlink outside of Africa or India

Many in Canada have no broadband options. My gf has this because otherwise, no internet access. Even cellphone reception is spotty where she is in rural Canada.

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Post by rglullis »

tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #578
digitaltrees wrote: post #379

I have started to see what I think are star link satellites at night on walks with my kids. It actually makes me sad to see that on person owns the night sky and is changing the literal stars my kids will grow up with. It feels different when it’s the government that theoretically represents people but when it’s one person that feels truly depressing.

Change is inevitable. I love seeing artificial objects in space, because it shows that we, humanity, are finally getting there. Elon doesn't own space, he just happens to be the one who is currently best at making it reachable. There is plenty of space for everyone else, and others will get there, eventually. I could eat myself up with envy over the money he's making from it... or be glad that it's at least someone g…

We don't need to have space literally transformed into junkyards to make progress, and there is nothing going wrong with going a lower pace if it means reduced impact on the rest of society.

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Post by singingtoday »

cubefox wrote: post #354
gagabity wrote: post #351

And Amazon going to add their own 100k, I'm sure there's nothing to worry about

There are also several Chinese satellite constellations which will expand more quickly once several Chinese partially reusable rockets are online.

I haven't been helping up with the development, are they getting close?

Competition is going to be grand!

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Post by rglullis »

rowanG077 wrote: post #625
jneaty wrote: post #602

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder what you mean by "moving humanity forward". Just technological advancements without other considerations? In my opinion it should at least require reducing human suffering, and if ao he has done more harm than good

I agree with this. But imo its pretty clear that cheap and easy access to the internet on the entire globe is a clear win.

It's already pretty cheap, global and universally available.
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