And speaking of technology, it would have been great to see the Phase Plasma Rifle at a 40 watt range make an appearance, if only by mention of name again.
Hey, just what you see, pal.
The tech of 'Terminator 2' – an oral history (2017)
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Re: The tech of 'Terminator 2' – an oral history (2017)
#82The 4K remaster of this is back in theatres next month for “Judgment Day” and the 35th anniversary. https://www.fathomentertainment.com/news/fathom-entertainmen...
I wonder if they'll show the director's cut? I was in high school when the movie came out, and we were on a 6 week road trip all over the USA that summer, so I couldn't see the movie. Those days they also published books for a lot of the popular movies (sold at gas stations), so I bought and read the book. I only got to see the movie a month or 2 after release when we were back home in Baton Rouge. The book was the d…
My understanding is that it's not so much that the novelisation is of the director's cut, but that the people writing them are typically working from (at best) the shooting script (and at worst, an earlier version of the script). The book needs to come out at around the same time as the movie, and there simply isn't enough time to re-edit it and print it after the final editing decisions are made. You'll frequently find sections in the book version that only end up on-screen as a director's cut or in deleted scenes, and sometimes just never at all.
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#83And speaking of technology, it would have been great to see the Phase Plasma Rifle at a 40 watt range make an appearance, if only by mention of name again.
Is that not what both humans and terminators are firing “lasers” in the future war scenes in both T1 and T2?
Re: The tech of 'Terminator 2' – an oral history (2017)
#84This was a fantastic read. I had no idea how much of Terminator 2 had to be invented from scratch. It's amazing to think that a lot of the tools and ideas that shaped modern VFX started with engineers just trying to solve one impossible problem after another. Some films really do stand the test of time, I'm not really sure that contemporary CGI will really age as well.
> I'm not really sure that contemporary CGI will really age as well.
Because today the film is subordinate to the CGI. In the early days, as is apparent in this oral history, CGI usage was deliberate and each shot received unusual scrutiny, time, and senior talent. And the technology simply wasn't used when the illusion didn't work; the imagery really had to blend with the physical footage. Today, obviously, the same considerations don't apply.
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
> how big of a deal Terminator 2 was and how big movie releases can be. Like, nothing in the MCU era or the Star Wars prequels and sequels comes remotely close I'm in that age range and I lived through T2 and Endgame and I'll have to disagree. T2 is one of my favorite movies of all time but experiencing the Endgame premiere, as a hardcore fan, with the other hardcore fans, was something else, it had the whole teather…
Endgame is basically "camp" (though large as camps go) at this point, and I mean that in a nice way, like how Rocky Horror Picture Show evoke similar audience reactions. But T2 references were everywhere and people not in to movies or action or sci-fi or pop culture knew and know them.
It’s not in Endgame, it’s actually in Infinity War, but everyone knows The Snap. It’s a generationally iconic movie moment that seeped into the entire U.S. culture. I had 65 year old lawyers referencing it in work meetings, and these were not MCU people at all. Sort of like how everyone knows who Darth Vader is even if they know nothing else about Star Wars.
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Holy shit. I thought the bullet splashes were CGI. I'm even more impressed that they were real practical effects, that is indeed nextfuckinglevel
Believe it or not, there is 6 minutes of onscreen CGI in T2 and only 6 minutes of onscreen CGI in Jurassic Park. The 80s and 90s were magical with practical effects. So many things were difficult to imagine how they were pulled off. In the last 20 years, everything’s just CGI. Movies like Mad Max: Fury Road and Fall Guy are few and far between.
Mad Max: Fury Road
Mad Max: Fury Road is wall to wall CG, compositing and everything in between.
https://www.fxguide.com/fxfeatured/a-graphic-tale-the-visual...
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My friend, there are over 2000 VFX shots in Fury Road, and at least 600 in The Fall Guy. I get that people are tired of CGI, but it’s a tool that is used in virtually every film that reaches theaters, for reasons as prosaic as matching skies between shots.
The question is for what is the tool used. To mach colors and hide cables or the complete content of a scene
I don't know where you are getting that idea. The entire movie is soaked with cg from every angle.
https://www.fxguide.com/fxfeatured/a-graphic-tale-the-visual...
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
The question is for what is the tool used. To mach colors and hide cables or the complete content of a scene
I don't know where you are getting that idea. The entire movie is soaked with cg from every angle. https://www.fxguide.com/fxfeatured/a-graphic-tale-the-visual...
And now compare to an Marvel or Transformers movie where many shots don't have a single real thing in it
Re: The tech of 'Terminator 2' – an oral history (2017)
#89T2 is the best movie ever made and got praise from nuclear physicists.
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
Endgame is basically "camp" (though large as camps go) at this point, and I mean that in a nice way, like how Rocky Horror Picture Show evoke similar audience reactions. But T2 references were everywhere and people not in to movies or action or sci-fi or pop culture knew and know them.
It’s not in Endgame , it’s actually in Infinity War , but everyone knows The Snap. It’s a generationally iconic movie moment that seeped into the entire U.S. culture. I had 65 year old lawyers referencing it in work meetings, and these were not MCU people at all. Sort of like how everyone knows who Darth Vader is even if they know nothing else about Star Wars.
That's impressive, from my vantage point "The Snap" or anything MCU doesn't come anywhere near Darth Vader or the Terminator in notoriety.