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The fact that there was a second vote on a modified law which passed.
Did it pass because a majority voted for it?
Yes.
EU Parliament greenlights Chat Control 1.0
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There is a considerable history of the US wanting Greenland: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposed_United_States_acquisi... > The problem is who do we ally with that we can trust now. "We have no eternal allies, and we have no perpetual enemies. Our interests are eternal and perpetual, and those interests it is our duty to follow." ― Lord Palmerston There are lots of possible allies, but no one single ally to depend…
Well yes the US has wanted it but never actually threatened to invade it before. And no I don't think it's a good idea for Europe to become a federated state. The US' current situation shows how bad that could turn if the wrong person is elected. At least we have the national governments here as a safeguard and we can also leave the EU if needed. And yeah I didn't name India as a possible partner because they're too…
Is there an unambiguous and credible threat?
The US actually occupied parts of Greenland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposed_United_States_acquisi...
> And yeah I didn't name India as a possible partner because they're too close with Russia.
Offer them a better alternative
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(1) Replace US president with a Commission of Presidents. One from each state (well, EU only has 27 member states). Each Commissioner is appointed by state legislature, not elected. No more presidential elections. This is the EU Commission. (2) Replace US senate with a meeting of secretaries, or heads of departments from each state. Only one relevant representative from each state. But the senate composition is not f…
It is a great analogy even for someone from Europe. In (4), though, I do not get the French exception. There are many countries in Europe with a president and a prime minister
> There are many countries in Europe with a president and a prime minister
In most of those countries, the role of the president is mostly ceremonial and/or has to do with foreign policy outside of EU.
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Well yes, China has their own TikTok pushing a different algorithm/recommendation But the western world has been trending down in culture sadly... I was a teen in 2005 and it was grim even then. Everyone wanted to be black for some reason.
the west is in full scale culture annihilation mode. links from the current generation to their ancestors are constantly sabotaged, forcing the repetition of societal mistakes, thus producing generational suffering to be mined for profits. I wonder how youths behave in the east, and what they consider to be cool. it would be interesting to compare cultural methods of societal programming (eg. the west stifles youth u…
Despite having preppy parents I had to rediscover music and fashion. For music, go classical and folk.
For clothes, despite having preppy parents I never adopted it until now. Pinterest is suprisingly good and white european women in their 20s and 30s have not adopted the jeans & hoodie gamer fashion I was so trapped in as a man.
But it has to be discovered and there is a hurdle there. The codes are oxford shirts, pleated trousers/trousers, coats, jackets.
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Her name is von der Leyen. "Ursula" is fine for your friends, but it’s awkward for a public figure. Do you write "Donald" as well?
yeah, I do write 'Donald', as do a lot of people. Awkward only if you are talking about the duck or the hamburger clown.
well actually, it's Ronald McDonald, not Donald McDonald
(but Donald Duck's first name is indeed Donald)
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It's worse than a farce. It's actually evil. The way "they" are pushing chat control, and how Ursula is avoiding justice (she has a huge corruption case hanging over her head but manages continuously cancel court dates); this makes a all too clear. The only way to fix this is EU member states become more critical: but for politicians in those states an EU position is the best promotion they can make. So almost nobody…
Her name is von der Leyen. "Ursula" is fine for your friends, but it’s awkward for a public figure. Do you write "Donald" as well?
Censursula is her nickname that she got in the days when she was a minister of family or something and wanted to censor the internet and allow using it only with a permit (2009).
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#908The EU is a farce, an undemocratic virtue signaling organization, and this is why: - The Parliament voted against the first reading of this proposal twice in 2026, the first time they only supported limited cases for it, while the second time they actually defeated it fully. - The Commission didn't care, and kept the proposal on the table by refusing to withdraw it. - Once the Commission does that, the proposal goes…
That summurizes it pretty well. The Commission is essentially omnipotent, and there is no relevat judiciary to stop it. This is farcical. Yes, from a PURELY MONETARY viewpoint, Brexit was a disaster. But there are more important things than money. I'm from Spain btw.
Yes, the Eu basically morphed into a supranational institution that allows a minority to control entire Europe and use it as a private farm for the countries that dominate it.
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You don't have effective representation just because a vote happens somewhere in a causal chain. A body that's appointed by people who are themselves typically indirectly elected is a lot of layers of indirection. For effective representation, you need a feedback loop between the voting and the policymaking at the other end. If you add all these layers in-between, voters are going to have a hard time figuring out how…
I dont disagree. But I am also limited in seeing practical solutions to make EU better in this sense for people to feel represented at all levels directly. Please note the practical thing here cause idealist solutions I have plenty. It is just that countries are too nationalistic. Why I find it hard: EU is another abstraction on top of what we already have: local, regional, national. EU is not just an alliance but a…
Eu cannot be bettered. It was transformed into a supranational institution that imposes its will upon countries. At this point its a detriment to the entire continent.
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#910FTA: What changes with the return of Chat Control 1.0—and what stays the same: *What is coming back:* US tech companies are once again allowed to scan private messages without a warrant or prior suspicion. This affects direct messages on platforms like Instagram, Discord, Snapchat, Skype, and Xbox, as well as emails via Google’s Gmail and Apple’s iCloud. *What remains unchanged:* Public social media posts and files h…
The Internet Watch Foundation, the group, funded almost entirely by big tech, who pushed for this vote to be held under emergency procedure, is already at work lobbying for the end of E2EE [1]. In a couple years time, Chat Control 2.0 will come about, and the same tyrants will use the EU admission [2] that there is no evidence that suspicionless scanning of private communications has led to an increase in criminal co…
At this point we have no choice but to conclude that the Eu has been subverted by megacorps as badly as the US political system has been.