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SpaceX wants to launch 100k more Starlink satellites for 100x the bandwidth

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Post by yalok »

croes wrote: post #392
dtagames wrote: post #302

I just finished a long RV trip and I can tell you it's hard to underestimate the importance of internet access (which also means Wi-Fi calling and access to maps and weather) across our entire, enormous nation. It's important not only for individuals but even more for businesses. Despite cell phone company ads with handsome celebrities in the desert, cell phones actually do not work in many places. But people do need…

Do you know what also is important? To know when a asteroid is on its way to us. All that satellites make discovering them more difficult.

Could star link add some cameras on the back of those satellites and make the detection actually much better?

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Post by mlindner »

tim-tday wrote: post #110

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome I wonder what spacex will be worth when launching satellites is impossible for a couple hundred years.

Kessler syndrome relies on two key provisions:

1. Orbiting objects never try to avoid each other.

2. They're in high enough orbits that atmospheric drag is not a significant factor such that debris can last decades or centuries.

Starlink fails both as they constantly maneuver and they're in low orbits that are constantly cleaned by the atmosphere.

And I'd add that "kessler syndrome" is actually a statistical process, not a rapid sudden cascade of satellites crashing into each other. It takes years to decades for it to actually "happen". It's not something that can be caused by military action either.

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Post by newtonianrules »

mercutio2 wrote: post #445
Natfan wrote: post #415

Earlier quoted context omitted.

until the kessler effect traps is on this ever-heating rock

LEO is not the place to worry about Kessler syndrome. Mostly, Kessler syndrome isn’t something to worry about at all; there are just a lot of orbital planes available. But in LEO, the mechanics don’t even apply.

Why is that?

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Post by pastel8739 »

moomoo11 wrote: post #396
digitaltrees wrote: post #379

I have started to see what I think are star link satellites at night on walks with my kids. It actually makes me sad to see that on person owns the night sky and is changing the literal stars my kids will grow up with. It feels different when it’s the government that theoretically represents people but when it’s one person that feels truly depressing.

buddy our ancestors didn’t even have light at night nor heat/ac. life for our kin will only be better. we will have space stations where you can visit and see all the stars you want. there will be space tourism and that will be pretty cool. that’s what i wanted as a kid and its cool to see it play out irl. edit: dang didn't expect so many negative people

Why is that better? Because you read about it in a sci fi book?

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Post by RandomLensman »

drstewart wrote: post #468
bayindirh wrote: post #436

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That’s a very reductionist and dismissive take. Also it’s rude. I’m an occasional astrophotographer, and the baseline of photos you can took are absolutely breathtaking now. Seeing this destroyed in real time is depressing. I used to see a rare flyby of a satellite in the complete dark, but now it’s much more, and besides my personal annoyance, many people much more serious about sky and space are rightfully angry. M…

>Not every progress is good progress And you're the judge of this based on your likes and hobbies? Anyway, I agree. Just ask the people blocking the HS2 or CaHSR about how sad the train plowing through their communities makes them feel. We need to tear down all trains, not every progress is good progress

Would you say it might at least be fair to discuss how things that affect everyone are decided upon or how externalities are compensated for? Or should it be free for all?

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Post by zefr0g »

dietr1ch wrote: post #397
dietr1ch wrote: post #380

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You'll be sad to know there's another mf trying to put a mirror to reflect sunlight near twilight https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflect_Orbital

To anyone thinking that 18m² isn't that big for how large the space is, please recall how bright reflective things shine during the day when you hit the right angle.

18x18 is 324m^2

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Post by Lomlioto »

foxglacier wrote: post #433
digitaltrees wrote: post #379

I have started to see what I think are star link satellites at night on walks with my kids. It actually makes me sad to see that on person owns the night sky and is changing the literal stars my kids will grow up with. It feels different when it’s the government that theoretically represents people but when it’s one person that feels truly depressing.

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What happened to you that you became that dismissive?

Was it not a big issue for you that aeroplanes were flying overhead?

Whos responsibility was it that you were living were you lived?

I guess there is a small difference between being able to choose or parents have choosen for you vs. everyone on the whole planet needs to endure it.

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Post by Lomlioto »

moomoo11 wrote: post #396
digitaltrees wrote: post #379

I have started to see what I think are star link satellites at night on walks with my kids. It actually makes me sad to see that on person owns the night sky and is changing the literal stars my kids will grow up with. It feels different when it’s the government that theoretically represents people but when it’s one person that feels truly depressing.

buddy our ancestors didn’t even have light at night nor heat/ac. life for our kin will only be better. we will have space stations where you can visit and see all the stars you want. there will be space tourism and that will be pretty cool. that’s what i wanted as a kid and its cool to see it play out irl. edit: dang didn't expect so many negative people

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Post by moomoo11 »

nalekberov wrote: post #404
moomoo11 wrote: post #396

Earlier quoted context omitted.

buddy our ancestors didn’t even have light at night nor heat/ac. life for our kin will only be better. we will have space stations where you can visit and see all the stars you want. there will be space tourism and that will be pretty cool. that’s what i wanted as a kid and its cool to see it play out irl. edit: dang didn't expect so many negative people

Granted “we” are billionaires. Not only you didn’t get the point, but you still hold on to your delusions: > life for our kin will only be better. Right? In this subscription economy? Where you have just limited time to watch the movie you loved? You can’t afford to rent the house you loved let alone buy it? (previous generations could afford) the list goes on and on. Maybe stop spreading lies and see things more obj…

you know there's more to life than just subscribing to services meant for the Lowest Common Denominator right? and of those people literally billions are happy to pay for them.

edit: not LCD the screen… if you thought thats what i meant then… nvm… not even gonna say it lol iykyk

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