Live data from Hacker News

Apple sues OpenAI, accuses ex-employees of stealing trade secrets

9to5mac.com

511–520 of 1001 posts

Re: Apple sues OpenAI, accuses ex-employees of stealing trade secrets

#511
post #274

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>This is how you behave when you think you're so much smarter than everyone around you that consequences don't apply you. Spot on perfect. I see this too often and not just in tech.

An acquaintance of mine was accidentally wired about $100k when it was supposed to be $5k. Before it could be reversed, they moved accounts and immediately bought a one way flight out of country. They then changed all socials and handles. They are now ignoring all court documents and are on track to get a default judgement against them. Their rationale? “It’s mine, they owed me this”. They are 100% convinced that the…

Hell, I used to know a guy who did this to steal a monitor from work. Went all the way down to Panama or something.

Re: Apple sues OpenAI, accuses ex-employees of stealing trade secrets

#512

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Anthropic trains on your data regardless of you opting out, I know that one for certain. How do you know that?

They systematically violated copyright when they grabbed whole internet to train their models. Do you really believe that they will stop stealing because they signed some funny ToS? Especially when every bit of data they have and competition does not have is making their model better.

People downvote you like you're being paranoid, but we're literally discussing this in a thread that shows how little respect those companies have for any sort of trade secrets.

Re: Apple sues OpenAI, accuses ex-employees of stealing trade secrets

#513

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Whenever I leave a company I make sure everything that belongs to the company goes back to them […] At $WORK we have the option of getting a work smartphone or having the company pay for (at portion of) our monthly mobile bill. I chose a work device because I do not want any cross-contamination. (Others chose payment because they did not want the 'hassle' of carrying a second device (and to save some cash).)

Like you I keep them separate. Not just my phone. I don't do anything personal on work devices (don't log into personal email or banks, etc...) But, I believe I'm in the minority. Most of my fellow employees have added corp to their phone. I believe most do personal stuff on their work computer. I get it, it's inconvenient. I've gone to offsites and given don't have corp on my phone I have to pull out my corp laptop…

[dead]

Re: Apple sues OpenAI, accuses ex-employees of stealing trade secrets

#514

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They do all of this, plus far worse. Including but not limited to flooding the internet with guerrilla marketing and sentiment-shifting bots across all social media platforms. This is the sort of company they are, and it's just the tip of the iceberg: https://clawd.rip

I tend to see far more obvious bots attacking Claude than any other - which makes sense, they're winning.

Same, the main network I see bots on is X and there’s a really obvious bot attack on them there since the fight with the DoD.

Re: Apple sues OpenAI, accuses ex-employees of stealing trade secrets

#515
post #317

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, ‘high/low-trust culture’ has lately been co-opted as a racist dog whistle.

This isn't true at all in general online discourse. Maybe on X, in which case I'd recommend getting off of X. It's overwhelmingly brought up when talking about Japan (and sometimes Korea) in comparison to the US (or EU). With Japan (or Korea) being the high-trust culture in that comparison, and the US/EU being the low-trust one. I guarantee you can do a search across mentions of high/low-trust culture across online p…

I've definitely seen it used both ways, comparing Japan to other countries as well as India/Africa.

I wouldn't necessarily call it a "racist dog whistle" myself, though - there is a very real pattern that's being pointed out but the reason I made the GP comment is that from my experience I would assume that Chinese culture is about as trustworthy as the West.

Re: Apple sues OpenAI, accuses ex-employees of stealing trade secrets

#516

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Based on what?

They do all of this, plus far worse. Including but not limited to flooding the internet with guerrilla marketing and sentiment-shifting bots across all social media platforms. This is the sort of company they are, and it's just the tip of the iceberg: https://clawd.rip

[flagged]

Re: Apple sues OpenAI, accuses ex-employees of stealing trade secrets

#517

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Petty theft, snatching, pickpockets, scams, etc are relatively uncommon compared to e.g. many popular places in Europe. Yes, in non-popular places in Europe those are also quite uncommon, even more then in the US on average.. So the lesson here is that those type of crimes are common in tourist heavy places, like.. Times Square in NYC for example.

[flagged]

I don’t think they were making that comparison, rather that touristy cities have more pickpockets, which is obviously true and expected.

You seem to be very sensitive when it comes to anyone that might deign to question the supremacy of the US and very quick to disparage those outside of it.

Re: Apple sues OpenAI, accuses ex-employees of stealing trade secrets

#518
post #512

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They systematically violated copyright when they grabbed whole internet to train their models. Do you really believe that they will stop stealing because they signed some funny ToS? Especially when every bit of data they have and competition does not have is making their model better.

People downvote you like you're being paranoid, but we're literally discussing this in a thread that shows how little respect those companies have for any sort of trade secrets.

[dead]

Re: Apple sues OpenAI, accuses ex-employees of stealing trade secrets

#519
post #317

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't true at all in general online discourse. Maybe on X, in which case I'd recommend getting off of X. It's overwhelmingly brought up when talking about Japan (and sometimes Korea) in comparison to the US (or EU). With Japan (or Korea) being the high-trust culture in that comparison, and the US/EU being the low-trust one. I guarantee you can do a search across mentions of high/low-trust culture across online p…

I've definitely seen it used both ways, comparing Japan to other countries as well as India/Africa. I wouldn't necessarily call it a "racist dog whistle" myself, though - there is a very real pattern that's being pointed out but the reason I made the GP comment is that from my experience I would assume that Chinese culture is about as trustworthy as the West.

When One Nation here in Aus is yapping about “high trust societies” and talking about Japan etc. to me it is absolutely a racist dog whistle.

Re: Apple sues OpenAI, accuses ex-employees of stealing trade secrets

#520
post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Intelligence is domain-specific. People who have put too many skill points in technical knowledge often have none left for common sense and street-smarts.

Intelligence is actually extremely general and transferrable - IQ measures meta skills and ability that predicts success in a plethora of areas. If you don’t believe in IQ consider agency and conscientiousness

Statistically yes but we need to look at the actual distribution and I doubt it’s just a handful of outliers.
Post reply on HN