Apple sues OpenAI, accuses ex-employees of stealing trade secrets

Post by akamaka » Sat, Jul 11, 2026, 5:54 AM UTC

paxys wrote: post #336

Reminder that Apple hired 30+ engineers from Masimo and stole multiple trade secrets, including their blood-oxygen monitoring tech, leading to a $634 million judgement against them. They also asked President Biden to intervene and pressure the ITC to reverse their ruling. Not saying OpenAI is innocent here of course, but really no large corporation is. This is just how the game is played.

Post by thatwasunusual » Sat, Jul 11, 2026, 5:59 AM UTC

_aavaa_ wrote: post #269

xnx wrote: post #38

A company that behaves like this in one area, cannot be trusted in any area. Any enterprise that endorses/allows OpenAI products to be used is taking a big risk.

The same can be said about Apple. Several companies have complained about them taking a meeting with apple, presenting their product, only to have Apple then rip it off and build it in house. To say nothing of sherlocking.

Post by cosmicgadget » Sat, Jul 11, 2026, 6:00 AM UTC

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #436

cosmicgadget wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't read the full complaint but the article focuses on bringing Apple IP to interviews. It's not clear that it was intended to steal trade secrets. The Liu guy seemingly did so but he wouldn't be the first person to try to take his own work product out the door for personal reasons. I distrust statements like: > “pattern by employees who depart for OpenAI of taking steps to evade the security processes intended…

They do explain that in more detail deeper in the complaint. They allege that OpenAI has obtained the offboarding checklist for Apple managers, that OpenAI is using it to issue guidance to departing employees on how they can avoid scrutiny, and that employees receiving this guidance have been ignoring Apple security personnel who try to schedule their standard exit processes.

Post by hhh » Sat, Jul 11, 2026, 6:02 AM UTC

nullbio wrote: post #376

impulser_ wrote: post #350

This is basically the end of OpenAI hardware. This is by far worst than the Waymo vs. Uber lawsuit which killed the Uber self driving project. Also if you are a business using OpenAI models, I would highly suggest you do not because they are most likely looking at your code and IP.

Obviously they are looking at your IP and code. Anthropic trains on your data regardless of you opting out, I know that one for certain. There's no coincidence they "keep your data temporarily despite opting out" - because they wash it in legal loopholes. There is no opt out. These companies WILL steal your business. Only a matter of time before they are sued as well.

Post by breppp » Sat, Jul 11, 2026, 6:02 AM UTC

refurb wrote: post #365

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #262

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my early career, I used my work computer (off hours) to do personal work. I never made any money, but it was still wrong. At some point, I couldn’t live with myself, and purchased my own computer (better than what work gave me, anyway). I never used my personal cell for work. The closest thing was coordinating meetups, when traveling.

I did the same. Nothing nefarious on my work laptop, but I used it for websurfing (avoiding questionable sites), booking trips, etc. Then I realized how stupid that was even though my employer was fine with and was never strict with how a work laptop is used. I realized not only did I not want my work to know what I'm doing on my personal time, the risk of cross-contamination and being accused of stealing confidentia…