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SpaceX wants to launch 100k more Starlink satellites for 100x the bandwidth

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Re: SpaceX wants to launch 100k more Starlink satellites for 100x the bandwidth

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When Starlink first became available here in poor-ish Central-EU, I was excited. Then, only months later, but after years of planning: EU funding brought fiber to my farm area, at ~$25/900mbps 10ms. While my story is just n=1, I don't understand the huge upside for Starlink outside of Africa or India, where they have However, I am dumb, and very open to be convinced.

Surely funding cell towers in Africa / India is cheaper and easier to maintain than 100k satellites in space.

Re: SpaceX wants to launch 100k more Starlink satellites for 100x the bandwidth

#213

When Starlink first became available here in poor-ish Central-EU, I was excited. Then, only months later, but after years of planning: EU funding brought fiber to my farm area, at ~$25/900mbps 10ms. While my story is just n=1, I don't understand the huge upside for Starlink outside of Africa or India, where they have However, I am dumb, and very open to be convinced.

Surely funding cell towers in Africa / India is cheaper and easier to maintain than 100k satellites in space.

It's not but it's all so tiresome to explain why. Also, those (hypothetical) towers have no ROI because they only serve poor people. Starlink covers the entire world so parts of the world can subsidize service to other parts.

Re: SpaceX wants to launch 100k more Starlink satellites for 100x the bandwidth

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When Starlink first became available here in poor-ish Central-EU, I was excited. Then, only months later, but after years of planning: EU funding brought fiber to my farm area, at ~$25/900mbps 10ms. While my story is just n=1, I don't understand the huge upside for Starlink outside of Africa or India, where they have However, I am dumb, and very open to be convinced.

It works on planes, ships, and in remote areas with no coverage. I live in Canada where the whole of Europe would fit many times over, nothing else would work in the remote areas at that scale. My parents live in Panama and use starlink to get reliable high speed internet at the beach. Even when the power goes out, their solar panels keep the internet online.

Re: SpaceX wants to launch 100k more Starlink satellites for 100x the bandwidth

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You want them to pay a multi-trillion dollar clean-up and cancer fund for car-sized multi-year-service-life satellites burning up in the atmosphere? How much do you want incumbent multi-decade culprits to pay? EDT: I should have clarified I'm not only talking about incumbent satellite companies because people are replying about the launch volume. Think about pollution from oil companies and coal plants and consider h…

We want incumbent multi-decade culprits to also pay appropriately.

Yet you only talk about it when it’s big scary Elon. Cry me a river.

Re: SpaceX wants to launch 100k more Starlink satellites for 100x the bandwidth

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post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surely funding cell towers in Africa / India is cheaper and easier to maintain than 100k satellites in space.

It's not but it's all so tiresome to explain why. Also, those (hypothetical) towers have no ROI because they only serve poor people. Starlink covers the entire world so parts of the world can subsidize service to other parts.

> It's not but it's all so tiresome to explain why

I'd really love to hear it. Obviously you aren't obligated to provide an explanation but if someone else does it, I'm all ears.

> Also, those towers have no ROI because they only serve poor people

So why are they being built at all?

Re: SpaceX wants to launch 100k more Starlink satellites for 100x the bandwidth

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Will this be the last generation to remember the night sky?

light pollution already means the night sky is largely invisible outside of remote areas

“You can’t see it most places so who cares if it goes away” is my most charitable interpretation of this.

Re: SpaceX wants to launch 100k more Starlink satellites for 100x the bandwidth

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many places have incompetent government that can't/won't build proper infrastructure. For example, the US has allocated around $50B for rural broadband and almost nothing has been built.

1 billion of that rural broadband funds was allocated to SpaceX, but the Biden administration revoked it in 2020. I wonder which has connected more rural Americans

Obviously Starlink has connected far more Americans than unbuilt rural fiber. Starlink did get $730M in BEAD grants more recently.
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