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Apple sues OpenAI, accuses ex-employees of stealing trade secrets

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OpenAI is about to get ROCKED on this. From this report, this looks open and shut. Apple has basically infinite money and incredible lawyers. Not sure what OpenAI can counter with unless they have clear, hard evidence this hasn’t been happening.

Is there any other AI company with as much controversy as this company? - ~murdered~ (dead) employee who's mother is on a anti-sam hate campaign - ceo fired then coup's his way back into the company - conflict of interest with Microsoft Despite Anthropic's bad press, they haven't been as dishonest as this company.

proactively creating the script for the movie

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> According to a report by The New Yorker, Swartz described Altman as a "sociopath" who "can never be trusted" and "would do anything Who is surprised by this development?

Apple suing someone when they lose ground in a space is never surprising.

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Some pretty damning stuff: > OpenAI also instructs new hires on how to avoid scrutiny when they leave Apple. For example, Mr. Tan warns them not to tell Apple that they have taken jobs at OpenAI, so they can stay at Apple as long as they can. > Apple says it discovered a pattern of OpenAI recruits emailing themselves confidential information when leaving Apple, including Tan. > OpenAI apparently used confidential App…

It gets even worse. The person not only kept the laptop and used an exploit to download confidential Apple documents, they bragged about it to a contact who was still working at Apple who was also feeding him information: > Liu allegedly kept an Apple-issued laptop after departing the company and exploited a vulnerability to download dozens of confidential Apple documents while he was working at OpenAI. He also maint…

> Whenever I leave a company I make sure everything that belongs to the company goes back to them

Meh, I'm not returning my nice 4k wfh monitor unless they ask for it specifically

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Can't wait for the inevitable bailout and US tax dollars to pay for this!

Bailout of OpenAI? Doubt it, unless Trump and Musk have some sort of falling out (again).

Has nobody heard about this theory yet? https://youtu.be/RqDAMeqvUgo

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It gets even worse. The person not only kept the laptop and used an exploit to download confidential Apple documents, they bragged about it to a contact who was still working at Apple who was also feeding him information: > Liu allegedly kept an Apple-issued laptop after departing the company and exploited a vulnerability to download dozens of confidential Apple documents while he was working at OpenAI. He also maint…

> Whenever I leave a company I make sure everything that belongs to the company goes back to them Meh, I'm not returning my nice 4k wfh monitor unless they ask for it specifically

Exfiltrating secrets via monitor burn in would be wild though.

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"Whenever I leave a company I make sure..." But its also that companies responsibility to ensure that the employer doesn't take anything. Apple know how to use MDM on Apple laptops, why wasn't the device locked and located.

Um, no. Why would it be their responsibility? There are laws regarding IP theft. If you willingly break them you can't just say "well your security wasn't good enough".

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probably the real reason why Apple opted Gemini over ChatGPT

Pretty foolish of them to play so unethically only to lose such a big account and now gain an open-and-shut lawsuit that will seriously damage their ability to compete in hardware for a very long time.

Maybe they believed Apple would roll their own AI and not have to license Google's.

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This is going to be interesting. Only because both companies have access to billions and infinite lawyers.

Lawyers: rubbing hands together

Yeah it reminds me of tha Pink Floyd lyric “..we’re so happy we can hardly count!”.
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