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How the terrorist group Boko Haram uses frontier AI

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Re: How the terrorist group Boko Haram uses frontier AI

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Post by hoppp »

throwaway27448 wrote: post #73
hoppp wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the impact of AI is comparable to the atomic bomb then the least they could do is try to filter out terrorists. I think this is a very convincing argument to regulate the space more.

...because terrorists in western africa are willing to follow american regulations? I hope this is satire.

The regulation is not for Westen Africa, it's for USA.

American companies could maybe keep OFAC regulations for AI?

If the fintech sector can do it, AI can too.

I'm pretty sure most of the western african terrorists are blocked from using coinbase, so why not chatgpt?

Re: How the terrorist group Boko Haram uses frontier AI

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Post by atlasunshrugged »

Pay08 wrote: post #69
user_7832 wrote: post #28

On a broad note, the violating/breaking of the guardrails when making bombs is frankly white terrible. It's also ironic that Fable hits guardrails for nothing, and a literal terrorist group is making bombs and merrily skipping over guardrails. Evidently guardrails need to have far better accuracies of false positives and false negatives both.

What does "white terrible" mean?

Maybe "quite"?

Re: How the terrorist group Boko Haram uses frontier AI

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Post by petilon »

woadwarrior01 wrote: post #62
Legend2440 wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly this sounds so outlandish that it makes me skeptical of the whole thing. They didn't stop after the first guy died? Or the tenth? Guy #11 just looked at the pile of corpses and was like, hell yeah I'm gonna try next? And where's the video? Terrorist groups love propaganda footage, if they were doing motorcycle stunts like Evel Knievel they'd be bragging about it everywhere.

If they were wary of dying, they wouldn't be in the business of terrorism in the first place. Also, they almost certainly believe in a better afterlife. Reminds of the old animated short: Saga of Bjorn[1]. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV5w262XvCU

Surely even terrorists want to die for a cause, not during practice.

Re: How the terrorist group Boko Haram uses frontier AI

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Post by throwaway27448 »

hoppp wrote: post #81
throwaway27448 wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...because terrorists in western africa are willing to follow american regulations? I hope this is satire.

The regulation is not for Westen Africa, it's for USA. American companies could maybe keep OFAC regulations for AI? If the fintech sector can do it, AI can too. I'm pretty sure most of the western african terrorists are blocked from using coinbase, so why not chatgpt?

And why would americans use regulated AI software when they could just buy it unregulated from china instead?

> If the fintech sector can do it, AI can too.

Fintech requires turning the number on a screen into something you can use to make a transaction. Good luck regulating... text.

For that matter, why would anyone want to live in a country where honest citizens have to use crippled software while criminals have full freedom?

Re: How the terrorist group Boko Haram uses frontier AI

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Post by bamboozled »

arjie wrote: post #3

> We saw in a movie how motorcycles can jump over bridges. We used AI to learn how to do this. We gave it information, like what motorcycles we use and the distance we need to jump and so on and it gave us steps on what we have to do. We practiced a lot and kept asking questions. We dug holes and filled them with broken glass and fire to practice. 18 of us died in the process. Eight of us managed to do it. The next t…

AI, at least llms , are really really horrible at basic arithmetic

Re: How the terrorist group Boko Haram uses frontier AI

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Post by BeetleB »

solid_fuel wrote: post #53
arjie wrote: post #3

> We saw in a movie how motorcycles can jump over bridges. We used AI to learn how to do this. We gave it information, like what motorcycles we use and the distance we need to jump and so on and it gave us steps on what we have to do. We practiced a lot and kept asking questions. We dug holes and filled them with broken glass and fire to practice. 18 of us died in the process. Eight of us managed to do it. The next t…

> We dug holes and filled them with broken glass and fire to practice. 18 of us died in the process. Is it providing material aid to terrorists to point out that maybe a hole filled with water would have been a better practice environment?

I assume you're asking in jest, but having experience in the matter:

Any information you give to someone/group, where you know or have good reason to believe it will be used for terrorism purposes (including training), does put you liable for providing material aid to terrorists.

Re: How the terrorist group Boko Haram uses frontier AI

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Post by zzril »

andy99 wrote: post #2

You type in the question or use your voice and it [AI] gives you a detailed answer, like ‘How can I build a bomb?’ and then it tells you how. It is like a human robot! We used it a lot. I’m pretty skeptical reading this bit. I’ve seen uncensored or jailbroken LLM replies to these kind of questions, they are never actionable, don’t say anything Wikipedia doesn’t, and are hard to provoke if you’re not using an uncensor…

> they are never actionable, don’t say anything Wikipedia doesn’t

Researching your way through Wikipedia and the likes certainly counts as "Western education", which as we all know is forbidden by their name. Having an agent read the forbidden stuff for them is just the loophole they needed!

Re: How the terrorist group Boko Haram uses frontier AI

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Post by chasd00 »

mothballed wrote: post #13
BeetleB wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do they bypass the AI safety measures? I read stuff like this and think I must be an idiot because I'm so bad at circumventing the AI safety for fairly benign queries. And here you have folks making bombs...?

Making explosives is generally fully legal in the US, so IDK if there would even be safeguards for US hosted AI, since there's no real legal issue with doing it. Basically no federal regulations for non-commercial production so long as it isn't stored or moved anywhere, you can literally buy tannerite off the shelf in a sporting good store, "synthesize" it by mixing it and then blow up a huge bomb legally, no license…

AI safety is really brand safety. They don't want to see any more headlines like "You won't believe what OpenAI's chatbot told me!", which was all the rage early on.
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