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Re: Show HN: Reviving my 2001 college band with AI

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Post by citizenpaul »

peab wrote: post #39

This is great! I disagree with some of the commenters here that the originals sound better. The originals sound very much like demos, and from a producer's perspective are very low quality (no offense). They're definitely more raw, but objectively not as good - i.e harmonies aren't tight, the levels are not well balanced, etc. It's funny that people hate that AI can improve this, because even without AI, modern music…

I agree. I think there are a lot of haters here. The remaster sounds much more professional/complete. I guess I could see that some people may have preference for a sorta live show feel but I've always preferred the album versions. Maybe I had too many friends that made me listen to their bad demo albums when I was young and I'm traumatized ha.

Re: Show HN: Reviving my 2001 college band with AI

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Post by AlecSchueler »

AnthonyR wrote: post #40
erikschoster wrote: post #21

The original recordings sound much better and more interesting to me. Way better. The AI generated versions sound slicker in some sense but... like the re-recorded versions of old hit songs from the 60s you hear at the grocery store sometimes. Technically the song is still there, but it blends in with the rest of the muzak. I'm sorry to be so negative, it's great you're returning to the material after all these years…

I'm glad to hear people share this sentiment. I think the human quality will be part of what people will start to enjoy more about music now that AI has improved so much in terms of it's ability to produce highly polished songs.

This is my hope as well but I'm doubtful. I'd expect it's more likely that the generations growing up with this stuff will enjoy being able to annoy their elders with it and fully embrace the human-less aesthetic.

Re: Show HN: Reviving my 2001 college band with AI

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Post by dang »

totallygeeky wrote: post #43

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Whoa - you can't attack other users like that here, regardless of how strongly you feel about a topic like AI.

It's against the site guidelines (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html), and especially against the Show HN guidelines (https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html). If you'd please review those and not post like this again, we'd appreciate it.

If you'd like to make your substantive points thoughtfully, that's fine.

Re: Show HN: Reviving my 2001 college band with AI

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dang wrote: post #45
totallygeeky wrote: post #43

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Whoa - you can't attack other users like that here, regardless of how strongly you feel about a topic like AI. It's against the site guidelines ( https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html ), and especially against the Show HN guidelines ( https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html ). If you'd please review those and not post like this again, we'd appreciate it. If you'd like to make your substantive points thoug…

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Re: Show HN: Reviving my 2001 college band with AI

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Post by ToucanLoucan »

erikschoster wrote: post #21

The original recordings sound much better and more interesting to me. Way better. The AI generated versions sound slicker in some sense but... like the re-recorded versions of old hit songs from the 60s you hear at the grocery store sometimes. Technically the song is still there, but it blends in with the rest of the muzak. I'm sorry to be so negative, it's great you're returning to the material after all these years…

My girlfriend has been using an AI music generator and like, her music is the best generative music I've listened to. Her prompts are crazy, lots of actual like, music theory and specific requests.

That said, it still shares these qualities. It sounds like AI images look. Oversmoothed/overtuned.

Like as a creative myself, what AI has taught me more than anything is that a lot of what we call artistry happens in the friction between an artist and their tools, when they're pushing to the limit of what they know how to and what their tools are able to do, that's where the great shit is. And it's not even that AI is a bad tool necessarily, it just doesn't create any friction. It can be frustrating, for sure, when you just can't get it to do what you want, but it's not an interesting frustration like friction because you aren't the problem, nor your skill: the tool is the problem.

That probably sounds like I'm saying it's bad and again, no. I'm saying the friction between the artist and their tools is the interesting part, and because there's very little friction, meaningfully, between artists and AI tools, it just comes out... boring.

The push for generative AI is "you can make anything," and that's true. But if you can make anything, then by necessity, anything you make is unimpressive. It's only really impressive if you're not sure if you can make it.

Re: Show HN: Reviving my 2001 college band with AI

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Post by dang »

plastic-enjoyer wrote: post #9

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Can you please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and especially https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html and stick to the rules? You broke them with this.

We're particularly trying to avoid comments that respond to other people's work with snark, putdowns, and/or dismissiveness. You don't have to like or appreciate every post, but poisoning the commons is not an ok way to handle that.

(By "you" of course I don't just mean you personally, but everyone here.)

Re: Show HN: Reviving my 2001 college band with AI

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Post by claaams »

plastic-enjoyer wrote: post #9

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I thought this was exaggerating but what happened to making art for arts sake. Nearly every time I hear or see AI art its extremely painful to me (with very few exceptions). I suppose it will get to the point of plastic surgery where the well crafted AI art will start to be difficult to discern from real art and at that point, maybe humanity should hang up the towel.

All that is to say, I like the originals so much more and would never in all eternity listen to the AI crafted stuff for listening enjoyment. I want to forget the AI versions like I had never heard them.

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