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Europe's Largest Unions Demand Right to Cancel Work on Days Above 30C

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Vapor compression refrigeration has been mass produced for a century. Add a reversing valve and you have a heat pump. Europe better get started on installs, it’s not going to cool down.

I have a warmtepomp -- it's great, but it is cooling the house, not the air a only gets it to 5 day degrees down. It's mandatory for new houses in Amsterdam I think and there seem to plans to retrofit old buildings. It helps that we also produce it, but the usual types tried to sabotage that too last time.

As a native English speaker, I love how some Dutch terms are clearly understandable to me without knowing Dutch, “warmtepomp” is a wonderful word :)

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The downvoting would be because of your claims that europeans have outlawed air conditioning

No, I'm pretty sure that's not it... (and I say that knowing that sarcasm is both dead and pretty hard to detect online, at the same time, no less)

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I think this whole heat wave crisis has been shocking to the rest of the world to see that apparently Europeans refuse to install AC even in new-build homes and it is causing enormous numbers of deaths. What is the reason for this? Is it just because it's expensive and energy costs are so high? It seems like a basic safety requirement that they are refusing to acknowledge and are now apparently just refusing to go to…

How would installing AC help if your job is outside? It would actually make it worse!

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It also works in homes with wall heating. My parents now have wall cooling, which is much nicer than any forced air AC.

>wall cooling That sounds like a big mold risk if its causing condensation in the walls. Wall heating, on the other hand sounds like a great idea.

We have underfloor heating/cooling; the only mould we see anywhere now is a small amount on the skylight, and previously some in the bathroom that was due to a leaking roof the builders have since made good.

Condensation needs humidity, not just a lower temperature. In summer, this is rare, even though we're in Berlin which is essentially built in the middle of a huge area of low-lying marshy woodlands.

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While they're at it, include schools too. Many school buildings have inadequate ventilation or climate control. Sweating in >30°C high-CO2 spaces doesn't improve student's learning.

That's been a thing for a long time. "Hitzefrei".

Re: Europe's Largest Unions Demand Right to Cancel Work on Days Above 30C

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I think this whole heat wave crisis has been shocking to the rest of the world to see that apparently Europeans refuse to install AC even in new-build homes and it is causing enormous numbers of deaths. What is the reason for this? Is it just because it's expensive and energy costs are so high? It seems like a basic safety requirement that they are refusing to acknowledge and are now apparently just refusing to go to…

It's nothing new. In 2003 there was a huge heatwave and thousands of people died: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_European_heatwave The reason is simple to understand. For the majority of the time the AC would sit idle. Some years AC is not required at all because the summer is mild. It's hard to get people to spend money on things that they don't need most of the time, it's like buying insurance.

or (to put it in an IT context) backup and DR services/hardware.
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