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My burner email blocklist blocked me

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Re: My burner email blocklist blocked me

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$50/year and Fastmail will let you alias anything@yourdomain.com to your inbox. I use a different email for every company or website I interact with, so I know who spams me.

My domain at Hetzner including mail costs less than 20€/year and all emails to @mydomain.com which are not part of predefined mailboxes land in my catchall@mydomain.com mailbox.

Do you have sending from the incoming address setup? If so, using what?

Re: My burner email blocklist blocked me

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Reminder that apple provides burner emails that are effectively unblockable (because they use the @icloud.com domain, at least for now[1]), for $0.99/month. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48559935

$50/year and Fastmail will let you alias anything@yourdomain.com to your inbox. I use a different email for every company or website I interact with, so I know who spams me.

ImprovMX will do that for free...

Re: My burner email blocklist blocked me

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Apple (like any email provider that conforms to RFC 2822) supports plus addresses as well.

Any illegitimate email collection service already knows to strip out email subaddresses. If you’re trying to avoid email spam, there’s not much difference in giving someone myname+foo@gmail.com versus just myname@gmail.com.

You could just use my.name@gmail.com for the no-alias version. So myname+foo@ works and my.name@ works but myname@ goes directly to the trash.

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$50/year and Fastmail will let you alias anything@yourdomain.com to your inbox. I use a different email for every company or website I interact with, so I know who spams me.

Apple (like any email provider that conforms to RFC 2822) supports plus addresses as well.

It's become a fairly regular occurrence that any email with + just shows an error saying the email isn't valid. Bad actors can also easily strip it out after

Re: My burner email blocklist blocked me

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Any illegitimate email collection service already knows to strip out email subaddresses. If you’re trying to avoid email spam, there’s not much difference in giving someone myname+foo@gmail.com versus just myname@gmail.com.

You could just use my.name@gmail.com for the no-alias version. So myname+foo@ works and my.name@ works but myname@ goes directly to the trash.

That can also be normalized.

Re: My burner email blocklist blocked me

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The easiest and best way is to rate limit the number of signups from a domain per day. You might still get people trying to bulk signup but as the article states, most large spam operators do not really use those domains anyway. Of course there are plenty of small time scammers to make up for that lack, so to speak.

I personally use burner emails when I want an account somewhere but would prefer not linking all of my personal interests and necessities to the same few email addresses. It just seems smart.

It is frustrating to try to make it clear you are not attempting to bypass authenticity controls, especially when AI can so frustratingly create text posts that can seem realistically 'human'.

Maybe someone will come up with a better way to attempt to add privacy back without ripping it away in the name of attempting to add it.

Though, I mean, that's been the issue since the 1990s: security or privacy, hard to have both, and yet difficult to have either without the other.

Re: My burner email blocklist blocked me

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"I never thought the leopards would eat MY face," sobs dude who contributed to the leopard-owned face eating industry.

There has never been a good argument for attempting to filter email addresses based on domain. Check address syntax on interactive forms purely to help users (did they fat finger something). Whatever well-formed address you've got, fire off emails and if they can receive them then it's a legit address. If you want to rate limit signups, then do so per-domain or per-mx, the same way you might limit incoming connections per-ip. That is the extent of guarantee that email provides you - trying to step over that demarc point is a control delusion.

Even outright throwaway domains like mailinator.com - if a user is giving you this type of address, it says more about your own requirement demanding an email address rather than the user themselves.

Re: My burner email blocklist blocked me

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Reminder that apple provides burner emails that are effectively unblockable (because they use the @icloud.com domain, at least for now[1]), for $0.99/month. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48559935

$50/year and Fastmail will let you alias anything@yourdomain.com to your inbox. I use a different email for every company or website I interact with, so I know who spams me.

Services like this are great for some things, like adding and removing forwarding, and vacation mails, and organising mails to make life and work easier, but the provider still links everything. It is only, at best private in a single direction. That is fine for some things, not so great for others (and it has nothing to do with legality).

Re: My burner email blocklist blocked me

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i have my own custom domain with a non ".com" TLD for e-mail and the number of services that reject sign ups for this purpose are way too high.

notably, micro center _was_ an issue but had to raise exception.

Re: My burner email blocklist blocked me

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Haha. I run a service that compiles IP addresses used by proxy services and a few months ago my own IP got there.

Turned out to be a friend that installed an app to watch soccer matches for free and in return he became a node of one of those services.

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