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Ryanair passenger sucked toward broken window after midair engine failure

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Re: Ryanair passenger sucked toward broken window after midair engine failure

#52
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He was pushed, not sucked. Pressure never sucks.

edit: Never mind me. I think I was wrong about this.

Colloquially speaking, it sucks. It’s like saying vacuum cleaners technically blow. It might be true but everybody knows it as sucking.

Re: Ryanair passenger sucked toward broken window after midair engine failure

#53

Well, this isn’t very typical, I’d like to make that point. Look, the windows not supposed to fall off, for a start. These things are built to rigorous aeronautical engineering standards — cardboard’s out, cardboard derivatives, no cellotape, no string. So chance in a million, really. And to be clear, the plane that the window fell off was flown to safety. So there’s nothing out there but birds, air, wind and clouds……

The window didn't "fall off". In article's 1st paragraph: "debris from a dramatic engine failure caused damage to the aircraft's window" That's high-velocity pieces of metal. Hard to prevent that from shattering a window if engine housing didn't catch it. How much stronger, thicker & heavier you want to make those windows? Costing how much more fuel? To save how many lives per year? I'd think airplane builders (note:…

Well there are a lot of these airplanes going around the world all the time, and very seldom does anything like this happen. I just don’t want people thinking that airplanes aren’t safe.

Re: Ryanair passenger sucked toward broken window after midair engine failure

#54

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I like to be able to look out the window, especially when we hit rough air. Seeing the fixed external reference helps me, for whatever reason.

Presumably for the same reason looking out the windshield helps with car sickness.

There are apps that show an overlay of moving dots on your phone which help with motion sickness.

E.g. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.stormtech....

Re: Ryanair passenger sucked toward broken window after midair engine failure

#55

Well, this isn’t very typical, I’d like to make that point. Look, the windows not supposed to fall off, for a start. These things are built to rigorous aeronautical engineering standards — cardboard’s out, cardboard derivatives, no cellotape, no string. So chance in a million, really. And to be clear, the plane that the window fell off was flown to safety. So there’s nothing out there but birds, air, wind and clouds……

The window didn't "fall off". In article's 1st paragraph: "debris from a dramatic engine failure caused damage to the aircraft's window" That's high-velocity pieces of metal. Hard to prevent that from shattering a window if engine housing didn't catch it. How much stronger, thicker & heavier you want to make those windows? Costing how much more fuel? To save how many lives per year? I'd think airplane builders (note:…

whoosh..

Re: Ryanair passenger sucked toward broken window after midair engine failure

#56

Well, this isn’t very typical, I’d like to make that point. Look, the windows not supposed to fall off, for a start. These things are built to rigorous aeronautical engineering standards — cardboard’s out, cardboard derivatives, no cellotape, no string. So chance in a million, really. And to be clear, the plane that the window fell off was flown to safety. So there’s nothing out there but birds, air, wind and clouds……

The window didn't "fall off". In article's 1st paragraph: "debris from a dramatic engine failure caused damage to the aircraft's window" That's high-velocity pieces of metal. Hard to prevent that from shattering a window if engine housing didn't catch it. How much stronger, thicker & heavier you want to make those windows? Costing how much more fuel? To save how many lives per year? I'd think airplane builders (note:…

Fan and turbine failures are supposed to be contained by the engine casing - it's part of certification. But as we see here, uncontained failures do occur. In general "airplane builders" do the absolute minimum to meet certification so they're not going to add reinforcement to protect against such an event until they're forced Into doing so by the authorities.

Turboprops can't, of course, contain a propellor failure which is why they have a big slab of armour in line with the prop disk. So in that case, yes, safety wins over cost and weight.

Re: Ryanair passenger sucked toward broken window after midair engine failure

#58
post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Presumably for the same reason looking out the windshield helps with car sickness.

There are apps that show an overlay of moving dots on your phone which help with motion sickness. E.g. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.stormtech....

That’s built into ios now too. It helps me not get car sick so quickly when I use my phone for a minute or two at a time, but I still can’t do what I want to do, which is read in the car.

Re: Ryanair passenger sucked toward broken window after midair engine failure

#59

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Serious question: Which seats are the ones that are in range? Just in front of the wing, or just behind it?

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Child comment if anyone would care to explain which info in the parent comment is incorrect.

Re: Ryanair passenger sucked toward broken window after midair engine failure

#60

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Because its a Ryanair flight?

Ryanair has a pretty high safety record, they fly modern, well maintained planes because their margins are lower and they make them up in volume.

Fun fact: Ryanair owns its fleet outright, and (currently) buys all of its new planes from cash flow. Pretty unusual for a major airline.
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