it may sound personal but from what i can see from afar, they are all correct.
My thoughts on the Bun Rust rewrite
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Re: My thoughts on the Bun Rust rewrite
#682This is unprofessional and embarrassing for Zig. I know very little about Jared but his article yesterday, which I read, seemed appreciative of Zig. I now learn he's donated significant chunks of money to them. This entire article is publicly and personally attacking him for choosing a different product. It's insane to me that Andrew thinks this post will somehow exonerate Zig when it really just makes them look chil…
Since you know very little about Jarred, why are you not investigating all of the issues raised about how Jarred has run that project from the get-go?
It's not childish in the least for someone who does know the background to point out those issues.
Re: My thoughts on the Bun Rust rewrite
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I'm quite confused by this. Is calling someone a "stinky manager" a personal attack? It's funny that we can't differentiate the person from his "job". I work with some shitty managers, but I don't hold it against them on a personal level...
It may be hard to separate the work and non-work personas of Jarred in particular. I watched an interview with Jarred where the interviewer asked what he liked to do for fun, what were his hobbies outside of work, and so on. His answer was that he liked working on Bun, and that's all he did. I felt a bit sad for him about it: even Linus T. has hobbies (like diving) and has raised a family. That said, it isn't necessa…
Inappropriate comparison. Did Linus raise a family by age 30?
Re: My thoughts on the Bun Rust rewrite
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You’re telling me you would be as likely to contribute to a project hosted in CVS as compared to git (and on GitHub)?
No, but making a codeberg account, seemingly the second most popular forge in the world, is not that huge effort.
never once seen a link to codeberg, at least gitlab or god forbid source forge still gets linked to on occasion
Re: My thoughts on the Bun Rust rewrite
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> Those people talked to each other. Everybody talked to everybody. The grapevine was large and healthy and full of juicy grapes, and all those grapes contained the juice of the same message: Jarred was a stinky manager. There’s a big gap between corpo speak and “stinky manager”. That’s nowhere close to professional writing. And he’s not giving us his personal opinion, Kelley is telling us the conclusion of the “grap…
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Why do we owe him the withholding of criticism for what he writes on his blog he puts out there on the internet in the hopes that people will take his side/adopt his opinion?
Re: My thoughts on the Bun Rust rewrite
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It's also a language of distancing from personal experience and honesty. Not saying you're wrong. Professionalism is an important tool for maintaining professional relationships. Lack of professionalism is dangerous to the point where it is reasonable for certain kinds of societies to begin to shun people who don't engage with it. And, at the same time, a certain amount of emotional honesty can be really important to…
1) If he wants to rant in an emotionally honest way, he can, but other people are free to prefer professionalism and call him out.
2) > It sounds like Zig's relationship with Bun is over. While Anthropic/Jason/Bun did not write a personal narrative about the end of that relationship, they absolutely were the initiators and could not have done this in a more aggressive way. It feels to me to be approximately the equivalent of moving out in secret and serving the divorce documents through your lawyer.
What a bizarre framing of the relationship between a software library and the language it's written in. Why would you even liken it to a marriage lolwtf
Re: My thoughts on the Bun Rust rewrite
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Surveys show that 60% of US adults don't like it which means 40% either don't care or do. I'd advise not getting your ideas about sentiment towards it from places like HN which are very biased and unrepresentative places of anything. I find the anti crowd increasingly to be hateful and close-minded and it is disappointing because I have a lot of friends in it. There's a moral puritanism which gives people feelings th…
I'm not anti-AI at all but to call people who don't want to use it "moral puritans" is laughable. It's hard to read that as anything other than a self-report on your own extreme nonchalance when it comes to the many ethical thickets surrounding this technology. While the possible benefits of AI in fields like medicine are promising, the concerns that a lot of people have about LLMs and the supporting infrastructure,…
I just don't see how it's different from the pre-LLM landscape, personally.
The takes I have seen about the "ethical thickets" all call out things that could have concerned the authors before LLMs, but which apparently did not.
Re: My thoughts on the Bun Rust rewrite
#689I was wrong to be upset this whole time that the rewrite would hurt Zig. This is one of those rare occasions when I’m glad I was wrong. Interesting insights.
I don't think Bun actually matters much, even for web development. For sure there is a lot of enthusiasm, but all the production systems I know continue to use Node.js and are not moving to Bun any time soon. In the "real world" not that many people care about it.
We use Bun at work.
Re: My thoughts on the Bun Rust rewrite
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The post has a lot of incel "well you're ugly and noone wants you anyway" energy
I think the article kind of gives you the energy you enter the reading with. My take away was closer to "This is what we tried, this is the sentiment they gave back, then this is what happened, here's what I think of Jarred's way of working, glad they now use Rust, good riddance", but then I also apply this slightly unholy strategy of applying charitable reading when reading personal blog posts, and I worship neither…
You’re not concealing your jabs at me very well. This comment reads just like the post lmao, no wonder you enjoyed it