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Punk, or why I don't stream anymore

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Re: Punk, or why I don't stream anymore

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Post by NitpickLawyer »

hptnrr wrote: post #17

ChatGPT does not know more than you. The fallacy is always that you compare AI to a human without literature references and a database. This is most egregious in chess engines that literally have endgame databases for example. Would Carlsen have won game six against Nepo if Nepo had had a tablebase? No, it was a draw many times. Hacker culture has slowly been subverted since the mediocre developers of open source pro…

> in chess engines that literally have endgame databases for example

You / Carlsen / anyone will not beat a top chess engine even without the endgame databases. In the vast majority of cases you / anyone won't even reach that part (7piece / 8piece for some positions).

> ChatGPT does not know more than you

Yes, yes it does. Your fallacy is that you confuse knowledge with "knowing what to do when you don't have that knowledge". But in pure raw knowledge (definitions, trivia, bits of history, etc) chatbots are oom over any human being. Just try any of the "benchmarks" gamified by people.

Re: Punk, or why I don't stream anymore

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Post by consumer451 »

gotodengo wrote: post #55
consumer451 wrote: post #11

> Oh god people actually go on a hinge date to axe throwing and think it’s the real world. Hinge dates and axe throwing are not my world. I also didn't go to pop band concerts and meat market bars in the olden times. I don't judge the people who did, at least now I don't.

While I agree with you, that disagreement with the author (and not in a my side vs. your side talking point kinda way) is one of the things I liked. I don't think anyone other than geohot himself would agree with the full thing, but that's his point. >I’ve been scraping dating sites and feeding them to ChatGPT, and it’s amazing how few of the profiles still say anything about the person. There are no rough edges, it’…

> I don't think anyone other than geohot himself would agree with the full thing, but that's his point.

OK, that makes a bunch more sense to me. Thanks for sharing that interpretation.

Re: Punk, or why I don't stream anymore

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Post by jrm4 »

everdrive wrote: post #19

I really like this style of writing in short bursts, and I appreciate the author's tone and concerns. I do wonder if the author is very young. As much as I enjoyed his small essay, a few things stuck right out at me: >I tried having a flip phone once (2014), but you couldn’t find out what time the movies were playing because moviephone just redirected you to their app. This has been a solved problem for a long time:…

So, I'm a college instructor, and sometimes I find myself reading a paper that I dislike -- and as I get into it I'm finding that I'm mentally arguing with the content and the actual argument(s) (as opposed to "quality of writing") and that's when I realize this person should get a good grade.

This is like that for me; he sounds kind of annoying, but as they say, points were made.

Re: Punk, or why I don't stream anymore

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Post by 1Bas-12g »

ben_w wrote: post #63
hptnrr wrote: post #17

ChatGPT does not know more than you. The fallacy is always that you compare AI to a human without literature references and a database. This is most egregious in chess engines that literally have endgame databases for example. Would Carlsen have won game six against Nepo if Nepo had had a tablebase? No, it was a draw many times. Hacker culture has slowly been subverted since the mediocre developers of open source pro…

> ChatGPT does not know more than you. The fallacy is always that you compare AI to a human without literature references and a database. If the human needs a literature references and a database to answer a question, can they be said to "know" the answer? ChatGPT doesn't have an endgame database for chess. Despite having "read" all the literature about chess, it will hallucinate the board state if you try to play ch…

If Stockfish uses a table base to play endgames, does it play chess?

If a CPU needs RAM and disk access to give answers, does it "know" the material?

Re: Punk, or why I don't stream anymore

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Post by NetMageSCW »

everdrive wrote: post #19

I really like this style of writing in short bursts, and I appreciate the author's tone and concerns. I do wonder if the author is very young. As much as I enjoyed his small essay, a few things stuck right out at me: >I tried having a flip phone once (2014), but you couldn’t find out what time the movies were playing because moviephone just redirected you to their app. This has been a solved problem for a long time:…

>This has been a solved problem for a long time: you look up the movie times and such prior to departing for the movies. No smartphone needed.

Strangely, not everyone is at home when they decide to go to the movies.

Re: Punk, or why I don't stream anymore

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Post by ambicapter »

cliglot wrote: post #46

> I’ve been scraping dating sites and feeding them to ChatGPT, and it’s amazing how few of the profiles still say anything about the person. I’ve long described dating apps as “distilling an entire person into a few curated photos and a snippet of text”. In all dating app profile advice I’ve ever seen, creativity, personality, and anything against the grain is highly discouraged. No wonder they barely work.

So he fed millions of profiles into a summarization machine and was surprised to find no sharp edges? Crazy work.

Re: Punk, or why I don't stream anymore

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Post by consumer451 »

aftbit wrote: post #56
skizm wrote: post #38

The only thing I will now remember this guy for is when he volunteered to work for Twitter/X after Elon took over. He failed to get twitter code building locally for about 4 weeks when attempting to change some placeholder text in the twitter search bar. He ultimately couldn't figure it out and then immediately quit lol. He even ran a poll on his twitter asking if he should quit, most people voted "NO" then he quit a…

I'll never forget Cydia or the PS3 hacks lol.

Same here. While I diverge from his opinion trees on many things these days, dude is/was an absolute rockstar to me.

Re: Punk, or why I don't stream anymore

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Post by 1Bas-12g »

NitpickLawyer wrote: post #71
hptnrr wrote: post #17

ChatGPT does not know more than you. The fallacy is always that you compare AI to a human without literature references and a database. This is most egregious in chess engines that literally have endgame databases for example. Would Carlsen have won game six against Nepo if Nepo had had a tablebase? No, it was a draw many times. Hacker culture has slowly been subverted since the mediocre developers of open source pro…

> in chess engines that literally have endgame databases for example You / Carlsen / anyone will not beat a top chess engine even without the endgame databases. In the vast majority of cases you / anyone won't even reach that part (7piece / 8piece for some positions). > ChatGPT does not know more than you Yes, yes it does. Your fallacy is that you confuse knowledge with "knowing what to do when you don't have that kn…

LLms are a cleverly encoded database. It is a lookup.

A very fast librarian with a select material of reference books and adept at speed reading could give the same answers as LLMs. A bit slower of course. Most of the time an encyclopedia would suffice and be more accurate than the hallucinating ghosts in the machine.

EDIT: The insane downvoters can go back to their AI girlfriends. The comment was meant for thinking people.

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