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Punk, or why I don't stream anymore

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Re: Punk, or why I don't stream anymore

#11
> Oh god people actually go on a hinge date to axe throwing and think it’s the real world.

Hinge dates and axe throwing are not my world. I also didn't go to pop band concerts and meat market bars in the olden times. I don't judge the people who did, at least now I don't.

Re: Punk, or why I don't stream anymore

#12
geohot is lucky to have grown up in proper hacker culture, doing CTFs, poking at hardware. I've only touched the surface of this from the outside. One time I got root on my network switch, but that was about it. And now I feel like I've wasted my life. Geohot made a pretty big difference to the world with his hardware hacking.

Separate thought: This new information world can be fought, but it's the war against capital and power, and that cannot be won, only resisted until the side with the capital and power becomes so incompetent and detached from reality that it collapses by itself (this is happening now, slowly; it happened already in the Soviet Union), and then we can shape what comes afterwards. But there probably won't be as much computer technology post-collapse.

Re: Punk, or why I don't stream anymore

#13
post #4

> But the difference is that you didn’t do anything. And in so much as there is a you, it isn’t steering. Now I realize that the non steering you is everywhere. Jesse: I was thinking about that thing you said about the universe. Going where the universe takes you? Right on. It's a cool philosophy. Jane: I was being metaphorical, it's a terrible philosophy. I've gone where the universe takes me my whole life. It's bet…

i think there's a balance, where you know where you want to get to and strive to course-correct towards it over time, but allow your present circumstances to choose which one of the infinite ways is going there today

Re: Punk, or why I don't stream anymore

#14
> AI is making this all so much worse. When you are prompting you feel like you are steering, but are you really? Would you know if you weren’t?

This one hits hard. I feel more and more that AI-assisted creation is really just consumption. And it’s worse because it gives a false sense of creativity. Are we really expressing ourselves and challenging ourselves by pressing a button and generating the same slop as a million other people?

Re: Punk, or why I don't stream anymore

#16

> Oh god people actually go on a hinge date to axe throwing and think it’s the real world. Hinge dates and axe throwing are not my world. I also didn't go to pop band concerts and meat market bars in the olden times. I don't judge the people who did, at least now I don't.

You are a good consumer, consumer451, because you don't judge other consumers' consumption habits.

Re: Punk, or why I don't stream anymore

#17
ChatGPT does not know more than you. The fallacy is always that you compare AI to a human without literature references and a database.

This is most egregious in chess engines that literally have endgame databases for example. Would Carlsen have won game six against Nepo if Nepo had had a tablebase? No, it was a draw many times.

Hacker culture has slowly been subverted since the mediocre developers of open source projects sold out to corporations and became managers of the A developers. Literally like pg wrote: C students manage the A students. Except that in open source this was a novelty and the A students were too timid or conflict averse to fork.

Re: Punk, or why I don't stream anymore

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post #14

> AI is making this all so much worse. When you are prompting you feel like you are steering, but are you really? Would you know if you weren’t? This one hits hard. I feel more and more that AI-assisted creation is really just consumption. And it’s worse because it gives a false sense of creativity. Are we really expressing ourselves and challenging ourselves by pressing a button and generating the same slop as a mil…

Wasn't this obvious?

Re: Punk, or why I don't stream anymore

#19
I really like this style of writing in short bursts, and I appreciate the author's tone and concerns.

I do wonder if the author is very young. As much as I enjoyed his small essay, a few things stuck right out at me:

>I tried having a flip phone once (2014), but you couldn’t find out what time the movies were playing because moviephone just redirected you to their app.

This has been a solved problem for a long time: you look up the movie times and such prior to departing for the movies. No smartphone needed.

>And it’s not like there’s anywhere to go. The real world is strip malls and axe throwing and escape rooms. Oh god people actually go on a hinge date to axe throwing and think it’s the real world.

You can escape, but you'll never hear about it by either checking online, or by listening to very-online people. Go on a hike. It doesn't even have to be a good one. Just go do it. Maybe say hi to some people you meet while you're there. You probably won't develop a deep friendship with them, but you will have a real, face-to-face human interaction.

Living away from the internet can now only be done intentionally. It can be done, though, but it's not the automatic choice. It's not even difficult ... it's just "manual." You must always think about what you want to do and how you want to do it. It's a skill that will come back to you. Or, if the author never learned it, a skill he still has a chance to learn.

What we've lost is getting to feel like you're connected to a common culture. This is a big, big loss, but it is not everything. The tools you need to escape are all around you. Power off your devices. Get some books at your local library. Try leaving your devices off all weekend, even when you get anxious, and bored, and your brain cries out for the easy, automatic stimulation it's become so accustomed to. Lay in bed and stare at the ceiling until your brain creates interesting thoughts out of your boredom. It's possible.

Re: Punk, or why I don't stream anymore

#20
The bit about stream viewers is interesting. What is the typical viewer experience?

I assumed watching streams is similar to watching vs participating in sports. I played a few as a teen, got quite good at one. As much as I like watching highly talented people apply their skill it does nothing to scratch the participatory itch.

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