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EU Commission: addictive design Instagram and Facebook in breach of the DSA

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Re: EU Commission: addictive design Instagram and Facebook in breach of the DSA

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Post by orrito »

chk84us wrote: post #11

Only tangentailly related, but, there is an option in Instagram to reset your algorithm. I highly recommend this if you find yourself doom-scrolling. Not sure if it's also in FB on account of me not having an account there.

Using instagram in a browser (e.g. firefox as it allows for extension on phone) and then installing an extension like control for instagram or hide reels works great, even better to set the https://www.instagram.com/?variant=following as your main page to enter (or is that only available in europe?). Allows to use instagram as old school social media instead of a scrolling app

Re: EU Commission: addictive design Instagram and Facebook in breach of the DSA

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Post by adi_kurian »

orrito wrote: post #81
chk84us wrote: post #11

Only tangentailly related, but, there is an option in Instagram to reset your algorithm. I highly recommend this if you find yourself doom-scrolling. Not sure if it's also in FB on account of me not having an account there.

Using instagram in a browser (e.g. firefox as it allows for extension on phone) and then installing an extension like control for instagram or hide reels works great, even better to set the https://www.instagram.com/?variant=following as your main page to enter (or is that only available in europe?). Allows to use instagram as old school social media instead of a scrolling app

Thank you so much for sharing that URL! Works in US of A.

Re: EU Commission: addictive design Instagram and Facebook in breach of the DSA

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Post by eleventen »

littlecranky67 wrote: post #19
amelius wrote: post #4

And what about the addictive design of advertisements that keeps us hooked on consuming more and more stuff? https://www.researchgate.net/publication/382310867_Methods_o...

Online advertisements should be forbidden as a whole. The attention-stealing and engagement-maximising internet with all it horribly effects only exist, due to advertising. And we know that the world without online ads is perfectly possible and livable, since we all lived through 1996.

This is a wild take. Most serious media companies would collapse without online ad revenue. Google would be dead, along with all the products that sorta run the world like maps. But even local publications, like your independent city news site, which you presumably think is good, also die instantly.

The ladder is also pulled up behind any kind of independent quality content producers. You cant run a successful channel without dedicated paid subscribers, and you can't build a dedicated subscriber base without years of work and supplementing your income with ads, so basically everything with an online audience also dies.

Re: EU Commission: addictive design Instagram and Facebook in breach of the DSA

#84

Post by YurgenJurgensen »

mc32 wrote: post #79
YurgenJurgensen wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

…and nothing of value would be lost.

Mostly true but there are a few good channels with very practical information for picking up new skills (gardening, woodwork, playing an instrument, etc) as well as looking up troubleshooting information. Those too would be lost. Sure some drag out three minutes into fifteen, but whatever…

In the olden days, those people wrote for things we called ‘magazines’. Without infinite free content at people’s fingertips, actually paying for curated content will likely make a comeback.

Re: EU Commission: addictive design Instagram and Facebook in breach of the DSA

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Post by aurareturn »

alpineman wrote: post #38

Just ban the discovery feed. Search only.

Agreed. HN feed is also addictive. EU should ban HN feed and only allow searching for new posts.

Quite honestly, I've been addicted to using my air fryer for cooking nowadays. The design is too good and convenient and the food comes out too tasty. I think EU should focus on making them less addictive.

Re: EU Commission: addictive design Instagram and Facebook in breach of the DSA

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Post by mc32 »

YurgenJurgensen wrote: post #84
mc32 wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mostly true but there are a few good channels with very practical information for picking up new skills (gardening, woodwork, playing an instrument, etc) as well as looking up troubleshooting information. Those too would be lost. Sure some drag out three minutes into fifteen, but whatever…

In the olden days, those people wrote for things we called ‘magazines’. Without infinite free content at people’s fingertips, actually paying for curated content will likely make a comeback.

It’s a bit harder to find stuff in a magazine that helps troubleshoot a water pump at night…

Re: EU Commission: addictive design Instagram and Facebook in breach of the DSA

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Post by justapassenger »

YurgenJurgensen wrote: post #84
mc32 wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mostly true but there are a few good channels with very practical information for picking up new skills (gardening, woodwork, playing an instrument, etc) as well as looking up troubleshooting information. Those too would be lost. Sure some drag out three minutes into fifteen, but whatever…

In the olden days, those people wrote for things we called ‘magazines’. Without infinite free content at people’s fingertips, actually paying for curated content will likely make a comeback.

You do realize that sponsored stories aren’t modern invention? Magazines were full of it too, sometimes disclosed, most often not.

Re: EU Commission: addictive design Instagram and Facebook in breach of the DSA

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Post by verisimi »

eleventen wrote: post #83
littlecranky67 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Online advertisements should be forbidden as a whole. The attention-stealing and engagement-maximising internet with all it horribly effects only exist, due to advertising. And we know that the world without online ads is perfectly possible and livable, since we all lived through 1996.

This is a wild take. Most serious media companies would collapse without online ad revenue. Google would be dead, along with all the products that sorta run the world like maps. But even local publications, like your independent city news site, which you presumably think is good, also die instantly. The ladder is also pulled up behind any kind of independent quality content producers. You cant run a successful channe…

Oh no, would Google and Meta be dead? How will we manage?!

Re: EU Commission: addictive design Instagram and Facebook in breach of the DSA

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Post by YurgenJurgensen »

mc32 wrote: post #86
YurgenJurgensen wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the olden days, those people wrote for things we called ‘magazines’. Without infinite free content at people’s fingertips, actually paying for curated content will likely make a comeback.

It’s a bit harder to find stuff in a magazine that helps troubleshoot a water pump at night…

I’m going to shock you, but you can pay for magazine-like content through the Internet right now.

Re: EU Commission: addictive design Instagram and Facebook in breach of the DSA

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Post by YurgenJurgensen »

justapassenger wrote: post #87
YurgenJurgensen wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the olden days, those people wrote for things we called ‘magazines’. Without infinite free content at people’s fingertips, actually paying for curated content will likely make a comeback.

You do realize that sponsored stories aren’t modern invention? Magazines were full of it too, sometimes disclosed, most often not.

And? They’d be banned too.
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