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Re: AI-generated videos to maximally drive a target brain region

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Post by qsera »

constantius wrote: post #99
qsera wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Advertisements actually run the world. Imagine a world without ads. The economy would grind to a halt. It is exploitation and manipulation, but that enables creation of large capital, which leads to great things. In the past it was pyramids and temples, and in modern times it is space exploration, scientific research and other things that require huge capital. Even the current advances in AI/LLMs are made possible by…

This reads like the mental hoops someone who works for or invests into Meta comes up with to resolve their cognitive dissonance. You might as well have said that without advertising, we wouldn't have charities, freedom of thought, and literature: the argument is as strong and might make you feel even better about yourself. Oh, turns out that you did say that advertising solved slavery in another comment. Carry on, ma…

I hate ads of all kinds and I hate targeted manipulations of all kinds.

But that does not stop me from recognizing the part it plays in the world. That shouldn't stop you either.

> we wouldn't have charities, freedom of thought, and literature:

Does great literature require huge capital?

Re: AI-generated videos to maximally drive a target brain region

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Post by pixl97 »

anon373839 wrote: post #89
aubanel wrote: post #78

This is the absolutely horrific next stage for social media platforms: - They're already well able to surface the most addictive short video for a specific user out of millions of real videos. - But these millions of real videos are just darts thrown into the space of "videos that could hook the user", in the end even the best-selected of them is not perfect. - Now, behold! AI allows to generate the perfect video to…

Social media is not even the worst threat vector, in my opinion. It’s Anthropic/OpenAI/Google, whom people are giving an unprecedented level of access to their innermost thoughts. We have not yet seen* the kind of large-scale, individually targeted psychological manipulation that cloud AI products can deliver. And I have no doubt the likes of Dario Amodei and Sam Altman will show us, if we give them enough time. * I…

I didn't realize that we'd start creating Westworld quite so quickly.

Re: AI-generated videos to maximally drive a target brain region

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Post by pixl97 »

Ntrails wrote: post #126
aubanel wrote: post #78

This is the absolutely horrific next stage for social media platforms: - They're already well able to surface the most addictive short video for a specific user out of millions of real videos. - But these millions of real videos are just darts thrown into the space of "videos that could hook the user", in the end even the best-selected of them is not perfect. - Now, behold! AI allows to generate the perfect video to…

> Let's hope our regulations hit these "social networks" hard enough so that never dare deploy this kind of technology. You'd do as well to hope that people wake up and stop opening the damned sites

Ah, just like drug addicts put down their poppies...

Re: AI-generated videos to maximally drive a target brain region

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Post by qsera »

1865_1013_t wrote: post #95
qsera wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Advertisements actually run the world. Imagine a world without ads. The economy would grind to a halt. It is exploitation and manipulation, but that enables creation of large capital, which leads to great things. In the past it was pyramids and temples, and in modern times it is space exploration, scientific research and other things that require huge capital. Even the current advances in AI/LLMs are made possible by…

Even if that is true, what you are saying is, essentially, that the ads-driven exploitative economy is a very expensive innovation engine. It is then useful to ask: if innovation is what we want, do there exist engines that aren't quite as expensive? If the market economy has more of a human face than outright slavery, there's no reason to believe that it's impossible to do better: a Copernican position would say tha…

> do better than state slavery.

The point is the exploitation of the masses and the ensuing concentration of wealth is the enabler. Sure we might find a way to do that without Ads...

Re: AI-generated videos to maximally drive a target brain region

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Post by akramachamarei »

weikju wrote: post #87
rightbyte wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is like screen saver moving patterns or corridors with a strange field of view zooming effect. Nothing special compared to purpose made screen savers.

That’s what someone would say if they were brainwashed by them!!! Half joking, half paranoid.

Really, I don't think you need to worry. A prevailing latent attitude in the comments is that the brain is somehow super malleable and subject to external control through some incantations. Like subliminal messaging, it will at most be moral panic that fades, and then people will act like they never believed in it.

Re: AI-generated videos to maximally drive a target brain region

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Post by akramachamarei »

StefanBatory wrote: post #28

How can one work on that and not consider that they're pure evil?

To flip the question on it's head, what exactly do you see as the "evil" potential? The most prominent comments to this effect are just scifi handwaving.

Re: AI-generated videos to maximally drive a target brain region

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Post by akramachamarei »

bcjdjsndon wrote: post #118
uniqueuid wrote: post #90

Among my secret research ideas, this is the most dangerous and morally wrong one. If future generations of researchers will wonder why IRB reviews became mandatory for computer science, studies like this will be the answer. Seriously, some people don't seem to realize the point at which they are becoming Fritz Haber.

In general, technology has always decreased our liberty though

Are you serious?

Re: AI-generated videos to maximally drive a target brain region

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Post by tavavex »

_qua wrote: post #96

I can imagine truly horrifying images coming out of this. Many people who have spent a lot of time online have come across unfortunate gore images that they may have seen for only a fraction of a second that they wish they could unsee. One can imagine the brain is able to see much worse.

June 9, 2032: ReMind, a new biotech startup, has opened to a recordbreaking IPO after a demo and a series of small-scale trials that stunned the world. The company is pioneering a new way to ingrain memories into the human brain - each ReMind screen is equipped with a special camera that can quickly recognize anyone who walks up to it, and ReMind's secret sauce algorithm is able to use past data of each user to generate imagery that will have the most profound impact on their brains. They claim that the algorithm is highly effective, being able to burn in imagery into the viewer's brains with an average accuracy of 83% per viewing. The CEO has promised to launch two services to start: ReMind Long-term, which focuses on creating imagery that simulates a 'traumatic' impression for creating long-term memories, which will be immensely useful for advertisers; as well as ReMind Short-term, for milder experiences that resemble a catchy song in a visual format for a quick boost in sales for a limited-time promotion. Advertising companies around the world have already placed tens of thousands of sales and deployment of ReMind-equipped screens is planned to begin immediately. Look forward to spotting one in your grocery store, in an elevator, on gas stations, on in-flight entertainment systems and in place of billboards on public spaces. The future is looking bright for ReMind!

Re: AI-generated videos to maximally drive a target brain region

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Post by tpoacher »

aubanel wrote: post #78

This is the absolutely horrific next stage for social media platforms: - They're already well able to surface the most addictive short video for a specific user out of millions of real videos. - But these millions of real videos are just darts thrown into the space of "videos that could hook the user", in the end even the best-selected of them is not perfect. - Now, behold! AI allows to generate the perfect video to…

If you're relying on government regulation to solve this, I guess the obvious bigger question would be "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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