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AI-generated videos to maximally drive a target brain region

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Re: AI-generated videos to maximally drive a target brain region

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Post by lloydatkinson »

aubanel wrote: post #78

This is the absolutely horrific next stage for social media platforms: - They're already well able to surface the most addictive short video for a specific user out of millions of real videos. - But these millions of real videos are just darts thrown into the space of "videos that could hook the user", in the end even the best-selected of them is not perfect. - Now, behold! AI allows to generate the perfect video to…

There's actual real people working on this bullshit. Horrifying doesn't even come close.

Re: AI-generated videos to maximally drive a target brain region

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Post by HPsquared »

api wrote: post #100
aubanel wrote: post #78

This is the absolutely horrific next stage for social media platforms: - They're already well able to surface the most addictive short video for a specific user out of millions of real videos. - But these millions of real videos are just darts thrown into the space of "videos that could hook the user", in the end even the best-selected of them is not perfect. - Now, behold! AI allows to generate the perfect video to…

Stop calling them “social” media. They have not been that since algorithmic feeds driving infinite scroll replaced updates from your friends. That was more than a decade ago. There is nothing at all social about the latest generation like TikTok and YouTube Shorts.

Algorithmic media

Re: AI-generated videos to maximally drive a target brain region

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Post by ajb »

An anecdote, but some reason to think that overworking part of your brain is a bad idea:

I had an Aunt who had dementia. This is obviously a terrible outlook. But her and my Uncle seemed to be doing okay. My Uncle was an ultra-competent guy, highly stable, the person you could rely on; and had been his whole adult life. So it was shocking when he had a mental breakdown and became manic. There was probably something physical going on, but what was also going on was that he had wanted my aunt to be able to live normally for as long as possible, so had been covering everything - for a year or more he'd had to be alert 7 days a week in case my aunt tried to cook on the gas stove or something like that, at which she was no longer safe. So the risk-alert part of his brain had been constantly overworked.

I appreciate that this is scientific research, but there are definitely companies out there that will try to row-hammer everyone's brain if this sort of thing is not heavily controlled.

Re: AI-generated videos to maximally drive a target brain region

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Post by api »

voidmain wrote: post #12

We are really getting to the point where the tech industry must be stopped if humanity is to continue at all, let alone thrive.

The problem is the incentive structure. We could be doing good things with tech. The incentive is to use it to addict and destroy. Addiction and war is where all the money is, not education or health care or positive forms of entertainment and art. No money in those. Why?

I’m sure there was an early hominid version of this discourse. “Maybe bad to make sharp rock and sharp stick if this what we do with it…” “Mmm yes someday we make sharp rock big enough smash world.”

Re: AI-generated videos to maximally drive a target brain region

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Post by hahajk »

da_grift_shift wrote: post #52
Unearned5161 wrote: post #49

This is very similar to last week with that mind reading startup thing. Please read the paper before commenting. This is a tool to help researchers in figuring out what different parts of the brain are actually for with less experimenter bias contamination of “well we think maybe it’s about this so let’s show it video of x to see”. The essence runs on having someone sit in a scanner for a couple hours watching all so…

>Expose brain to something, record it somehow, see if brains reaction in the recording helps you understand more about who we are and what cognition is. It also helps companies like Moonbug Entertainment (Candle Media) understand how to build better Distractatrons. It’s a small TV screen, placed a few feet from the larger one, that plays a continuous loop of banal, real-world scenes — a guy pouring a cup of coffee, s…

Sounds like they took a cue from Sesame Street:

> p8: "A child watching television under normal conditions is subject to frequent interruptions and distractions. The TV must vie for his attention. In order to simulate this condition, we decided to program distractions into the laboratory situation... Slides could be used to fill the slide tray and they could be projected automatically, at regular intervals, onto a screen similar to that of the television set. The carousel projector allows the viewer to choose three exposure times. The 7.45 second interval proved most satisfactory with the preschool children.

THE FIRST YEAR OF SESAME STREET: THE FORMATIVE RESEARCH https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED047822.pdf

Re: AI-generated videos to maximally drive a target brain region

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Post by alexpotato »

What's interesting is that the process of identifying what gets human attention is nothing new.

e.g. cartoons from the 1950s were designed to have:

- cute animals

- short and fast scene cuts

- catchy music

b/c all three of the above were known to trick the human brain into "sit still and observe" mode.

Focus groups did the same thing for advertising which then morphed into A/B testing to determine revealed preferences.

Same thing with the whole fat/salt/sugar research that led to near addictive fast food.

This is just the next logical step.

Re: AI-generated videos to maximally drive a target brain region

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Post by jurgenburgen »

qsera wrote: post #75
jurgenburgen wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can’t tell if this is satirical or serious. Those ancient wonders were enabled by slave labor, treating people as “capital” is the ultimate climax of capitalism.

Not sure what you find funny about it. >Those ancient wonders were enabled by slave labor That is exactly the point.

Sorry, should have said parody. Don’t find it funny. I guess Poe’s law applies.

Re: AI-generated videos to maximally drive a target brain region

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Post by acessoproibido »

sudb wrote: post #85
aubanel wrote: post #78

This is the absolutely horrific next stage for social media platforms: - They're already well able to surface the most addictive short video for a specific user out of millions of real videos. - But these millions of real videos are just darts thrown into the space of "videos that could hook the user", in the end even the best-selected of them is not perfect. - Now, behold! AI allows to generate the perfect video to…

I am surprised that no comment has yet mentioned Infinite Jest (which I'm still yet to complete - it's been years since I started).

Care to elaborate for those that haven't started tackling this tome yet?

Re: AI-generated videos to maximally drive a target brain region

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Post by krapp »

voidmain wrote: post #12

We are really getting to the point where the tech industry must be stopped if humanity is to continue at all, let alone thrive.

One might even come to the conclusion that the Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

Re: AI-generated videos to maximally drive a target brain region

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Post by bcjdjsndon »

ajb wrote: post #103

An anecdote, but some reason to think that overworking part of your brain is a bad idea: I had an Aunt who had dementia. This is obviously a terrible outlook. But her and my Uncle seemed to be doing okay. My Uncle was an ultra-competent guy, highly stable, the person you could rely on; and had been his whole adult life. So it was shocking when he had a mental breakdown and became manic. There was probably something p…

I bet it wasn't overwork, it was the fight or flight response being constantly activated for your uncle when he's caring for your aunt who could do anything unpredictably.
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