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Ben Bernanke Joins Anthropic Oversight Trust

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Re: Ben Bernanke Joins Anthropic Oversight Trust

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doublepg23 wrote: post #28
ponco wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The benefits of modernity (electricity, cars, iPhone, Claude) are good, but they come bundled with potentially terminal ecological costs which is bad.

Have people (smarter than me) come up with a good equation - or at least heuristic - to determine what inventions are morally good? I suppose it'd be from a utilitarian perspective? Ex: My gut feeling is nitrogen fixing would rank "low" on "terminal ecological impact" against "positive benefits to humanity"; the Vinyl resurgence would be around the middle; private jets for the Epstein class would the highest etc.

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Re: Ben Bernanke Joins Anthropic Oversight Trust

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Post by hatefulheart »

siwakotisaurav wrote: post #67
hatefulheart wrote: post #64

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Let’s not forget we are talking about a world changing technology here. So when you tell me “some people working on some projects are using it”, I’ll pretend you didn’t say “all” because that’s untrue, you haven’t asked all of them, and the company that got bought out by Anthropic did their “rewrite-in-rust” meme, do you think it’s unreasonable to incredulous?

Now the goalpost is “all” of code? I don’t think anything I say is likely to change your mind. You might need to get through this valley of depression by yourself in a few years and join the rest of devs using ai

Your reading comprehension is awful.

You said “all” as in “all” developers on those projects. You haven’t spoken to all of them to make that claim. You’re just making stuff up. That’s what I was pointing out.

If you are suggesting that we can call the Chromium project a work of LLMs because some developers may or may not be using LLMs on the project it let’s just stop the conversation right here.

This is becoming a classic case of LLM brain rot. I hope you come back to your senses.

Re: Ben Bernanke Joins Anthropic Oversight Trust

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Post by sph »

brikym wrote: post #30

Just in case Anthropic are looking for some more members that are a good cultural fit I found this list: > Genie Energy's Strategic advisory board is composed of: Dick Cheney since 2009 (former vice president of the United States),[3] Rupert Murdoch (media mogul and chairman of News Corp), James Woolsey (former CIA director), Larry Summers (former head of the US Treasury), Michael Steinhardt, Jacob Rothschild,[4][5]…

Imagine Rupert Murdoch (95, worth $21.7 billion) arguing the pros and cons of job displacement and widening economic inequality caused by generative AI.

Re: Ben Bernanke Joins Anthropic Oversight Trust

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Post by khurs »

hatefulheart wrote: post #56
mountainriver wrote: post #9

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Except Anthropic has delivered a truly world changing product…

8 months ago I asked this question, I will ask again: Where are your browsers? Where are your compilers? Where are your databases? Where are your operating systems? Can you point me to literally anything useful that works and was created by this world changing technology? All I see is dead project after dead project.

AI isn't re-creating the world, it's augmenting it.

The death of Stack Overflow being a visible indiction: https://data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/1926661#g...

Re: Ben Bernanke Joins Anthropic Oversight Trust

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Post by bbg2401 »

siwakotisaurav wrote: post #67
hatefulheart wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let’s not forget we are talking about a world changing technology here. So when you tell me “some people working on some projects are using it”, I’ll pretend you didn’t say “all” because that’s untrue, you haven’t asked all of them, and the company that got bought out by Anthropic did their “rewrite-in-rust” meme, do you think it’s unreasonable to incredulous?

Now the goalpost is “all” of code? I don’t think anything I say is likely to change your mind. You might need to get through this valley of depression by yourself in a few years and join the rest of devs using ai

Why do many AI advocates sound so, so much like the cryptocurrency zealots of the mid-2010's?

Is it something you aim for, or is it just the natural way of communication for people excited by a new technology, patricianly one they feel gives them some kind of insider advantage or hidden knowledge?

Re: Ben Bernanke Joins Anthropic Oversight Trust

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Post by m11a »

esikich wrote: post #35

He's 72 years old, I'm sure he has the best brains and everyone's best interests in mind. This is exactly what I want to see. I'm sure he will have very good opinions on technology and it's implications.

I had conversations with Ben a few years ago about his economics research (incidentally related to some research I was doing at the time). I wouldn't have guessed he was close to 70. He's a sharp guy.

(I also think his economics research is excellent, and the comments elsewhere about his track record aren't particularly fair.)

Re: Ben Bernanke Joins Anthropic Oversight Trust

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Post by m11a »

hatefulheart wrote: post #56
mountainriver wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except Anthropic has delivered a truly world changing product…

8 months ago I asked this question, I will ask again: Where are your browsers? Where are your compilers? Where are your databases? Where are your operating systems? Can you point me to literally anything useful that works and was created by this world changing technology? All I see is dead project after dead project.

How long did it take from the first DBMS to get to Postgres? The first OS to get to Linux? The first compiler to get to LLVM? For Postgres and Linux and LLVM to become mature enough to hold the revered reputation they have now?

The jury's still out on AI, but coding agents have only really worked for about 6 months now. It's not exactly a fair statement to make. Obviously good things take time and thought. And understanding the full implications of technological advancement also takes time and thought.

Re: Ben Bernanke Joins Anthropic Oversight Trust

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Post by preisschild »

msikora wrote: post #16
lostaccount wrote: post #12

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World changing in a good way?

Yes, absolutely in a good way

I disagree. People get dumber because they outsource thinking to fancy autocomplete and I haven't really yet seen work by LLMs that significantly improve the world.

Re: Ben Bernanke Joins Anthropic Oversight Trust

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Post by preisschild »

i_idiot wrote: post #20

These guys have to produce a hit piece everyday...everyone by now knows that "we are doing this for humanity" is bullshit.

> everyone by now knows that "we are doing this for humanity" is bullshit.

There are people here in this thread that act like LLMs are the best invention since sliced bread

Re: Ben Bernanke Joins Anthropic Oversight Trust

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Post by derangedHorse »

esikich wrote: post #35

He's 72 years old, I'm sure he has the best brains and everyone's best interests in mind. This is exactly what I want to see. I'm sure he will have very good opinions on technology and it's implications.

This sounds like age discrimination.
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