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Re: Hy3

#101

Got really excited for a minute that the long-standing [Hy]( https://hylang.org ) project had had a release, but it's just some confusingly-named LLM. Shame.

The strange names are mainly initials from Chinese pinyin. The first generation of Tencent Hunyuan was released in 23Q3, so it is already quite a veteran.

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#102
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Do people really use 100B+ models for writing? I am no writer but to me it seems like writing is one of the easiest tasks with barely any logic or reasoning and as long as its not longer than a handful of pages I expect even 8B models to perform great.

> I am no writer but to me it seems like writing is one of the easiest tasks with barely any logic or reasoning Virtually all logic or reasoning is, in one way or another, part of the support for writing. It’s what separates actual writing from generating nonsense that happens to fit grammar rules. The specific details depend on the domain, of course, but I can’t see how anyone familiar with the output of writing can…

Of course there is logic but its nowhere near the complexity of math or programming

Re: Hy3

#103
post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do people really use 100B+ models for writing? I am no writer but to me it seems like writing is one of the easiest tasks with barely any logic or reasoning and as long as its not longer than a handful of pages I expect even 8B models to perform great.

> with barely any logic or reasoning I take it you enjoy works of literature with inconsistent world building? Or do you mean professional as opposed to creative writing? Because the bar is even higher for that.

The wording wasnt very good I ment compared to programming or math the amount of logic and reasoning is small (Research level math hardly compares to writing a book in raw reasoning and logic). And I thing the smaller models have enough "intelligence" to write coherent with logical world building, but only the big models can truly do hard math and programming work

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#104
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Recently tried the pelican test on GPT-OSS which was probably one of the best local models of 2025. So cool to see how models have improved in the SVG pelican!

I'm skeptical, as tests go, I think that's burned out now. They could easily be training specifically to get a better pelican...

If they were training specifically for it the result would be much better

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#105
Interesting way to show off a model last on every benchmark. Not sure any other lab is doing this

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#106

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flash is 284b isnt it? https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/deepseek-v4-flash

Oh, it is. I was looking at the Huggingface repo which listed the lower number at the top of the page, looks like that's wrong.

Same, I was relying on that. Weird!

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#107

Interesting way to show off a model last on every benchmark. Not sure any other lab is doing this

More like second-to-last on most of them, to my eye. Which is impressive as it's smaller and cheaper than the others.

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#108
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Pelican from a few days ago: https://simonwillison.net/2026/Jul/6/hy3/ - I was using the free tier on OpenRouter, which expires on July 21st. I tried the preview model 41 days ago and got a pelican with a "change pelican color" button: https://static.simonwillison.net/static/2026/hy3-preview-pel...

I quite enjoy that the "animate wheels" button animates the sun instead.

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#109

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> I am no writer but to me it seems like writing is one of the easiest tasks with barely any logic or reasoning Virtually all logic or reasoning is, in one way or another, part of the support for writing. It’s what separates actual writing from generating nonsense that happens to fit grammar rules. The specific details depend on the domain, of course, but I can’t see how anyone familiar with the output of writing can…

Of course there is logic but its nowhere near the complexity of math or programming

let me just say, you're not going to sound smart saying that
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