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AI-generated videos to maximally drive a target brain region

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Re: AI-generated videos to maximally drive a target brain region

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Post by stymaar »

idiotsecant wrote: post #70
ben_w wrote: post #3

As others on Telegram have said: automated search for visual superstimuli likely leads to bad outcomes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernormal_stimulus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BLIT_(short_story) Also: one of the V3A animations reminds me loosely of things I saw when I was a kid, at night, shortly before I slept (though my experience then was more circular).

There are undoubtedly 'adversarial images' that will induce certain effects in particular biological minds. It seems like this is neither good or bad inherently, just another tool.

So are opioids.

Or how a very useful tool can become a public health catastrophe.

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Post by charcircuit »

nullbio wrote: post #23

This is already happening at scale by the social media feed algorithms. We don't need generated content to accomplish this. In a sea of user created content, plenty of it is already at peak activation.

Optimizing for engagement is a categorically different goal than optimizing for lighting up a specific part of someone's brain.

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Post by sph »

Fuck this and whoever is driving this type of research. We’re increasingly living in a world designed by sociopaths. What do these people think this research will be used for?

I wish we had the Hippocratic oath for STEM, or at least that they would take ethics seriously rather than an afterthought against the god of Progress at all costs.

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Post by qsera »

jurgenburgen wrote: post #66
qsera wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Advertisements actually run the world. Imagine a world without ads. The economy would grind to a halt. It is exploitation and manipulation, but that enables creation of large capital, which leads to great things. In the past it was pyramids and temples, and in modern times it is space exploration, scientific research and other things that require huge capital. Even the current advances in AI/LLMs are made possible by…

Can’t tell if this is satirical or serious. Those ancient wonders were enabled by slave labor, treating people as “capital” is the ultimate climax of capitalism.

Not sure what you find funny about it.

>Those ancient wonders were enabled by slave labor

That is exactly the point.

Re: AI-generated videos to maximally drive a target brain region

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Post by PaulHoule »

da_grift_shift wrote: post #52
Unearned5161 wrote: post #49

This is very similar to last week with that mind reading startup thing. Please read the paper before commenting. This is a tool to help researchers in figuring out what different parts of the brain are actually for with less experimenter bias contamination of “well we think maybe it’s about this so let’s show it video of x to see”. The essence runs on having someone sit in a scanner for a couple hours watching all so…

>Expose brain to something, record it somehow, see if brains reaction in the recording helps you understand more about who we are and what cognition is. It also helps companies like Moonbug Entertainment (Candle Media) understand how to build better Distractatrons. It’s a small TV screen, placed a few feet from the larger one, that plays a continuous loop of banal, real-world scenes — a guy pouring a cup of coffee, s…

I recently rewatched the movie Looker which was vastly ahead of its time in 1981

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looker

the same year as Baudrillard's Simulacra and Simulation, featuring computer generated characters, brainwashing television commercials, a light pulse gun that causes absence seizures, gun battles inside a plastic surgery clinic and an AR simulation environment, a sadistic computer, a physician who doubles as an action hero, and James Coburn giving a lecture explaining the enemy's evil plans in the opposite role that he played in the (excellent) The President's Analyst.

This time I was not so dazzled and saw it for as atrocious everyone else things it is. The minions of "Digital Matrix, Inc." manage several assassinations with the light-pulse L.O.O.K.E.R. gun but when they use real firearms they outdo Vader's stormtroopers by shooting each other. (Want to see the scene where somebody from E.Y. tells them to stick to the L.O.O.K.E.R. gun) The bad guys explain the penultimate secret to the protagonist early on but the ultimate secret is revealed in the L.O.O.K.E.R. lab which doesn't feel like a lab at all but rather a rather good room in a theme park experience where you're supposed to uncover the secret. (Contrast that to the lab Doug Trumbull outfitted in the Brainstorms movie a few years later which is packed with real surplus equipment... I've been to that lab!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBlWxXqH8vA

Re: AI-generated videos to maximally drive a target brain region

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Post by aubanel »

This is the absolutely horrific next stage for social media platforms:

- They're already well able to surface the most addictive short video for a specific user out of millions of real videos.

- But these millions of real videos are just darts thrown into the space of "videos that could hook the user", in the end even the best-selected of them is not perfect.

- Now, behold! AI allows to generate the perfect video to surgically hit all the switches in the viewer's brain and turn it into a zombie hooked for days on end.

Let's hope our regulations hit these "social networks" hard enough so that never dare deploy this kind of technology.

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Post by barrenko »

aubanel wrote: post #78

This is the absolutely horrific next stage for social media platforms: - They're already well able to surface the most addictive short video for a specific user out of millions of real videos. - But these millions of real videos are just darts thrown into the space of "videos that could hook the user", in the end even the best-selected of them is not perfect. - Now, behold! AI allows to generate the perfect video to…

We are doing to our brains and our children the same thing we are doing to pigs in cages, squezeeing every last cent until the planet burns down.

Re: AI-generated videos to maximally drive a target brain region

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Post by soco »

aubanel wrote: post #78

This is the absolutely horrific next stage for social media platforms: - They're already well able to surface the most addictive short video for a specific user out of millions of real videos. - But these millions of real videos are just darts thrown into the space of "videos that could hook the user", in the end even the best-selected of them is not perfect. - Now, behold! AI allows to generate the perfect video to…

Don't forget it's not "the platforms" doing this, it's people like you and me, maybe even people reading this message. We, they, are building this, and don't care about anything as long the paycheck comes. This is the reality.
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