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Build your own vulnerability harness

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Re: Build your own vulnerability harness

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Dumb question: Can someone help me understand whag it means to have a “harness” for agents (and why you need one)? I’ve done some reading on the topic and am just not getting it.

The harness is the tool you use to communicate with the model. It can be as basic as a simple conversation tool (like ChatGPT back in the day), or more advanced like GitHub Copilot, Claude Code, etc. Advanced harnesses will give precise instructions to the model to tell him what tooling / skills / MCPs / etc are available, and will orchestrate all the actions around the model (like starting subagents, calling externa…

Hermes, OpenCode, Claude Code seem to be Harnesses.

"GitHub Copilot" seems to be a harness and five other products that share this name.

Re: Build your own vulnerability harness

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This whole vulnerability thing is the first time I'm really feeling like AI tech is a shakedown more than a value-add to my job. So I have to take multiple different frontier models, burn tokens constantly scanning all my code bases with complicated harnesses that eat tokens by the hundreds of millions, burn tokens cross-checking the cross-checks of the cross-checks in some eight-phase process made out of non-determi…

> What happens to the whole AI value proposition when instead of it being a way to pump out lines of code for crazy cheap it becomes a way for each line of code to become vastly more expensive than it was before? I would consider that a good thing. Businesses should not able to make money by writing terrible, insecure code. Anybody who prevents them from doing so surely deserves to capture the additional value create…

I seriously doubt Cloudflare is writing "terrible, insecure code".

Those numbers suggest what I've intuitively known for a while, which is that we really need to up our security game in this space.

Re: Build your own vulnerability harness

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This whole vulnerability thing is the first time I'm really feeling like AI tech is a shakedown more than a value-add to my job. So I have to take multiple different frontier models, burn tokens constantly scanning all my code bases with complicated harnesses that eat tokens by the hundreds of millions, burn tokens cross-checking the cross-checks of the cross-checks in some eight-phase process made out of non-determi…

> burn tokens constantly Only if you choose to use the most expensive option.

Go ahead and ask Sonnet to do a security scan of your code. You can't afford to be using Sonnet if your opponents are using Fable.

Re: Build your own vulnerability harness

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> burn tokens constantly Only if you choose to use the most expensive option.

Go ahead and ask Sonnet to do a security scan of your code. You can't afford to be using Sonnet if your opponents are using Fable.

“I have an idea, let’s scan how secure our code is by shipping it all to a third-party who also has an incentive to capture as much as possible, and talk openly about replacing jobs with their agents”.

Seriously, no thanks. Don’t care.

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