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Parental device use and the adolescent-caregiver attachment bond

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Re: Parental device use and the adolescent-caregiver attachment bond

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Post by jb1991 »

dizlexic wrote: post #35
Gigachad wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aside from the physical/chemical damage alcohol does to developing brains, alcohol addiction is bad for adults too. We just concede that after childhood you can make your own choice to ruin your life. Phone addiction is harmful to everyone at all age groups. It's not really the individuals to blame through. The tech companies have broken human psychology and developed something more addictive than drugs.

Spoken like someone who hasn't really done drugs.

Numerous studies have supported this thesis, that phone addiction is identical to a chemical addiction.

Re: Parental device use and the adolescent-caregiver attachment bond

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Post by jb1991 »

I would love to get rid of my smartphone altogether, actually. I’m just not quite sure how to do it. I need to use a map app often. And most of the announcements and services in my country from companies and schools are all handled through WhatsApp. So it makes it a bit difficult to cut that tether.

Re: Parental device use and the adolescent-caregiver attachment bond

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Post by StefanBatory »

r_lee wrote: post #14
tayo42 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wyh can't it be something like I don't want you to end up like me? I don't think it's hypocritical Changing habits is hard enough on it's own.parenthood and modern life makes that even more difficult

this is what naive adults think, don't you remember how it was when you were a kid? I seriously, I feel like so many people just somehow magically forget their entire childhoods, maybe selectively? I lack the ability to lie to myself like that unfortunately

I have ADHD; I genuinely don't remember my childhood. If you told me my life started in secondary or high school, I would have believed you.

Re: Parental device use and the adolescent-caregiver attachment bond

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Post by skybrian »

jb1991 wrote: post #51
dizlexic wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spoken like someone who hasn't really done drugs.

Numerous studies have supported this thesis, that phone addiction is identical to a chemical addiction.

What’s an example of a study that you think is convincing?

Re: Parental device use and the adolescent-caregiver attachment bond

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Post by dybber »

jb1991 wrote: post #52

I would love to get rid of my smartphone altogether, actually. I’m just not quite sure how to do it. I need to use a map app often. And most of the announcements and services in my country from companies and schools are all handled through WhatsApp. So it makes it a bit difficult to cut that tether.

Maybe the new Commodore flip phone? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48552614

Re: Parental device use and the adolescent-caregiver attachment bond

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Post by olafmol »

Now it's smartphones and devices, but in the past it was work. Personally I think these days kids get a lot more attention from their parents than anytime in the past. Even so much that it can be irritating/damaging (parents being "friends/playmates" instead of parents).

Re: Parental device use and the adolescent-caregiver attachment bond

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Post by gyomu »

jb1991 wrote: post #51
dizlexic wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spoken like someone who hasn't really done drugs.

Numerous studies have supported this thesis, that phone addiction is identical to a chemical addiction.

Can you share studies that show they’re “identical”?

You’re not going to overdose from using your phone too much, or die from withdrawal if you suddenly stop using your phone, so that seems like a stretch.

Re: Parental device use and the adolescent-caregiver attachment bond

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Post by mc3301 »

StefanBatory wrote: post #53
r_lee wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

this is what naive adults think, don't you remember how it was when you were a kid? I seriously, I feel like so many people just somehow magically forget their entire childhoods, maybe selectively? I lack the ability to lie to myself like that unfortunately

I have ADHD; I genuinely don't remember my childhood. If you told me my life started in secondary or high school, I would have believed you.

I dunno if that is connected to ADHD, and I dunno if I have ADHD (though by reading the textbook* on it, it kinda seems I do)... but I genuinely don't remember my childhood either.

*Taking Charge of Adult ADHD

Re: Parental device use and the adolescent-caregiver attachment bond

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Post by airstrafer »

dizlexic wrote: post #35
Gigachad wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aside from the physical/chemical damage alcohol does to developing brains, alcohol addiction is bad for adults too. We just concede that after childhood you can make your own choice to ruin your life. Phone addiction is harmful to everyone at all age groups. It's not really the individuals to blame through. The tech companies have broken human psychology and developed something more addictive than drugs.

Spoken like someone who hasn't really done drugs.

I get what you’re saying but phone addiction has absolutely ruined people’s lives.

Re: Parental device use and the adolescent-caregiver attachment bond

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Post by KeplerBoy »

jb1991 wrote: post #52

I would love to get rid of my smartphone altogether, actually. I’m just not quite sure how to do it. I need to use a map app often. And most of the announcements and services in my country from companies and schools are all handled through WhatsApp. So it makes it a bit difficult to cut that tether.

Getting a tiny phone not meant for media consumption is probably the closest you can achieve. You are not going to waste a lot of time watching youtube on a 3" screen, because that's just no fun.

The "jelly star" phone looks kind of fun. I just sat in a busy tram and wondered what the scene would look like if we all had phones like that. It's an innteresting thought experiment.

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