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EU Parliament greenlights Chat Control 1.0

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Re: EU Parliament greenlights Chat Control 1.0

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We’re talking about erosion of privacy and draconian internet surveillance. Brexit was a major screw up and I’m not here to defend any side, just to dispel this illusion that somehow the left are the good ones and the right is the bad far right.

Re: EU Parliament greenlights Chat Control 1.0

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> Also, see the case of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%BCseyin_Do%C4%9Fru - if you aren't liked by the EU courts, ... This was done by the Council of Europe (an organisation made up of a mix of member state foreign ministers and member state parliament members) https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=OJ:... No court was involved as far as I can tell...

That’s even worse

Indeed

Re: EU Parliament greenlights Chat Control 1.0

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Multiple things can be true at the same time. There can exist strong consumer protections against misuse of their personal data by various entities. And there can simultaneously also exist governmental overreach against citizens private data. The world is complex, few things are truly binary.

But now you have governmental overreach and legalized spying on European Citizens by (mostly) US Companies, so i would say that Law is truly binary bad. Also how the Law was forced is extremely bad. But hey it's once more proof that the EU is not a democratically spirited institution.

Europe or EU has never looked at data protection against private companies and data protection against government as one and the same. Remember, that even GDPR has carveout for governmental use.

The americans did, but US isn't EU.

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Politicians can take vacations. Many things went wrong here but this ain't it.

This is an absurdly bad take. https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/faq/9/plenary-session... > Plenary sessions of Parliament take place 12 times per year in Strasbourg and last four days There are 48 days in sessions over a year. You're saying that it's too much to ask MEPs not to take holidays during those 48 days? Am I missing something here?

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Real time notifications here would solve a lot of issues... Imagine Alice, an 18, 19yo girl, having a boyfriend, Bob, and since Bob is on a student exchange, she decides to send him a boob photo. Since alice is skinny, her boobs are on the smaller side. Now imagine Alice hitting 'Send', and getting an automated message from whatever CSAM AI bot: "Your message has not been sent, the system detected the breasts in the…

I think a more realistic system would be hashing images and comparing them to known CSAM in some database. I think Apple was going to implement something like this a few years ago before scrapping it.

I don't really want governments, Apple or Google to build databases of CSAM, thank you :/

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46 of 53 Greens/European Free Alliance MEPs voted to reject this, 3 abstained. Which greens you mean?

https://howtheyvote.eu/votes/195775

Check the political groups tab. Yes means reject here.

Re: EU Parliament greenlights Chat Control 1.0

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To me as a European, this is not only about the dystopia that is becoming the tech survailance of society but it is a perfect example of what I feel the EU is. It is a disgusting dysfunctional institution that should have never been created in my opinion. This is what we have... Unelected bureaucrats using every opportunistic tool they can to, in my opinion get rid of democracy. What are we fighting for at this point…

I don't agree with the decision, but what is this bull** about unelected bureucrats? That's literal Orban/Putin propaganda speak

MEPs are elected.

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