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Ben Bernanke Joins Anthropic Oversight Trust
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Re: Ben Bernanke Joins Anthropic Oversight Trust
#52Someone here recently said, “Dishonesty is a core value of Anthropic,” and that aligns with my experience of the company as a user. All their talk about AI safety since the company’s inception now feels like pure theater, given their conduct in everyday operations. It’s a shame how quickly their image has deteriorated.
Dishonesty is at the core of Effective Altruism, which strangles a lot of the sensible choices Anthropic should be making. Although this feels more like, "anyone with socio-political edge worming their way in to suckle on the feed of imaginary printed money" more than anything.
Can you provide some context for this? I’m aware of SBF’s EA links, and how empty those sentiments appear to have been, but I’m just some guy, and it isn’t clear to me that the whole idea is dishonest, even if I don’t think it’s terribly realistic.
Re: Ben Bernanke Joins Anthropic Oversight Trust
#53Just in case Anthropic are looking for some more members that are a good cultural fit I found this list: > Genie Energy's Strategic advisory board is composed of: Dick Cheney since 2009 (former vice president of the United States),[3] Rupert Murdoch (media mogul and chairman of News Corp), James Woolsey (former CIA director), Larry Summers (former head of the US Treasury), Michael Steinhardt, Jacob Rothschild,[4][5]…
Dick Cheney passed away in 2025, just an FYI.
Re: Ben Bernanke Joins Anthropic Oversight Trust
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's actually exactly how I feel about Anthropic. They play such a PR game, trying really really hard to be seen as the good guys. It feels as another satirical episode of Silicon Valley. It's very clear they are all money and power motivated while also pretending to do all of this for the good of humanity. I have rarely seen that level of hypocrisy and cultish behavior from leadership and employees there. I would…
The funny thing is it’s so transparent. Like… is that the point? They want us to know how dodgy they are, kind of as a “** you”? Often the point of propaganda is not to convince, it’s to demoralise. On the other hand I could also believe that they live in such a bubble they genuinely don’t understand how it comes across. Add in a non-negligible amount of neurodivergence and maybe that’s the simplest explanation
> On the other hand I could also believe that they live in such a bubble they genuinely don’t understand how it comes across
Yes, at least until ~6 months ago that was my reading too. I felt they were part of the EA/less wrong crowd. Earnest, convinced they were smarter than everyone else, paternalistic, massively lacking in real wisdom.
Now, I think maybe they're still struggling with that but they've had a real taste of power and like everyone smart but lacking in wisdom, faced with the real world, all their idealism has become lip service and pandering to their previous in group while their real target (which they probably haven't even admitted to themselves) slips further and further towards gathering more power.
As another example of a tech company where something similar happened, see Google. Although at least they never started out with this condescending "we're here to save you from... us" vibe.
Re: Ben Bernanke Joins Anthropic Oversight Trust
#55He's 72 years old, I'm sure he has the best brains and everyone's best interests in mind. This is exactly what I want to see. I'm sure he will have very good opinions on technology and it's implications.
Bjarne Stroustrup is 75 years old. I don't think that age per se tells us much.
Re: Ben Bernanke Joins Anthropic Oversight Trust
#56This feels like Theranos loading up their board with big names.
Except Anthropic has delivered a truly world changing product…
8 months ago I asked this question, I will ask again:
Where are your browsers? Where are your compilers? Where are your databases? Where are your operating systems?
Can you point me to literally anything useful that works and was created by this world changing technology? All I see is dead project after dead project.
Re: Ben Bernanke Joins Anthropic Oversight Trust
#57Just in case Anthropic are looking for some more members that are a good cultural fit I found this list: > Genie Energy's Strategic advisory board is composed of: Dick Cheney since 2009 (former vice president of the United States),[3] Rupert Murdoch (media mogul and chairman of News Corp), James Woolsey (former CIA director), Larry Summers (former head of the US Treasury), Michael Steinhardt, Jacob Rothschild,[4][5]…
Dick Cheney passed away in 2025, just an FYI.
I'd recommend they substitute him for a well known, uncontroversial figure like Klaus Schwab.
Re: Ben Bernanke Joins Anthropic Oversight Trust
#58Re: Ben Bernanke Joins Anthropic Oversight Trust
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
Except Anthropic has delivered a truly world changing product…
8 months ago I asked this question, I will ask again: Where are your browsers? Where are your compilers? Where are your databases? Where are your operating systems? Can you point me to literally anything useful that works and was created by this world changing technology? All I see is dead project after dead project.
If you take them at their word, the people working on the current browsers, compilers and databases are all using it
Google self reports 70% ai usage in code, bun was fully ai rewritten to be rust
Re: Ben Bernanke Joins Anthropic Oversight Trust
#60Someone here recently said, “Dishonesty is a core value of Anthropic,” and that aligns with my experience of the company as a user. All their talk about AI safety since the company’s inception now feels like pure theater, given their conduct in everyday operations. It’s a shame how quickly their image has deteriorated.
Hm, they are still the most transparent lab when it comes to publishing system cards and safety research. For example the system card for Fable 5 runs 319 pages.
The stuff with Fable falling back to Opus was a bad business move but seems consistent with their position on safety and was published in the system card. Is Ben Bernanke joining the board a dishonest move?