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The glass backbone: Why the Army's logistics will break in the next war

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Re: The glass backbone: Why the Army's logistics will break in the next war

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The next war is going to need the US to do something pretty spectacular if it’s going to reclaim the ground it’s lost in the Iran war. The situation there is an utter joke, and shows no sign of wrapping up any time soon.

That’s because there’s no political will for ground forces by the US because it’s a dumb war. If there was political will, then the area around the Hormuz strait would’ve been seized, as well as the nuclear sites secured. Carpet bombing, too, not just surgical strikes.

> That’s because there’s no political will for ground forces by the US because it’s a dumb war.

It’s all very well claiming you can win, but when you don’t that’s the result you’re stuck with.

Re: The glass backbone: Why the Army's logistics will break in the next war

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Good article but, like a lot of stategic studies pieces, grossly underestimates what the American industrial base is capable of.

1. The US is second in the world, behind Ukraine, in military drone production.

2. The US is a close second to China in logistics + last mile drone production.

3. The US is still the only country with the proven ability to move mass anywhere in the world.

None of this means that the US will win a hot war against China. However, that has - always - been the case. The US fought against China in Korea and SE Asia/Vietnam and had the opportunity twice to move the conflict into Chinese territory. They didn't, for obvious reasons.

Geography + LOCs + population are a b***h.

Re: The glass backbone: Why the Army's logistics will break in the next war

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Thanks for linking this is interesting. It sounds like they are still unable to produce many of the base components though? > most manufacturers of everything within Ukraine remain dependent on imported machining tools — traditionally Chinese, but increasingly Indian and, for those who can afford it, European. But for the cheapest components, simple base-line products like transistors, circuit boards, wiring, or sola…

Taiwan?

Taiwan is tiny, far from Ukraine, and the majority of the economy is TSMC. Just because they're also Chinese doesn't mean they have the ability to make everything China does.

Re: The glass backbone: Why the Army's logistics will break in the next war

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Good article but, like a lot of stategic studies pieces, grossly underestimates what the American industrial base is capable of. 1. The US is second in the world, behind Ukraine, in military drone production. 2. The US is a close second to China in logistics + last mile drone production. 3. The US is still the only country with the proven ability to move mass anywhere in the world. None of this means that the US will…

Are there any vessels proved to move mass anywhere, which are still alive from the latest moving mass happened? AFAIK, all those ships are not in service, and all American males got somewhat femalified.

Re: The glass backbone: Why the Army's logistics will break in the next war

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- Why don't they carpet bomb all of the Ukraine? Russia does not have anywhere near enough aircraft to do that. If they tried, they'd lose more of their air force.[1] Russia does not have much of an aircraft industry left. For one thing, much of the USSR's aircraft industry was in Ukraine. - Why not fire off a litany of missiles? Nuclear? Russia so far has not wanted to cross that threshold and start WWIII. Non-nucle…

> The draft in Russia now covers all males from 18 to 30. In that age range, men can no longer leave Russia. This is incorrect.

Well, at least not via major airports.[1]

[1] https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/07/23/russia-tightens-bo...

Re: The glass backbone: Why the Army's logistics will break in the next war

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post #169

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Why can they not use firebombing and other conventional munitions? If they can deliver a nuke surely they can deliver a conventional warhead. That is enough to level an urban area as we see in Gaza.

If you level a city you just removed 95% of the reason for trying to capture that city. Spending untold billions of dollars and tens of thousands of lives for a pile of ash would never pay itself off.

Israel wants the Palestinian land. Many of them would be happy to raze Gaza to nothing and rebuild it.

Re: The glass backbone: Why the Army's logistics will break in the next war

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If you level a city you just removed 95% of the reason for trying to capture that city. Spending untold billions of dollars and tens of thousands of lives for a pile of ash would never pay itself off.

But this is exactly how russians are capturing Donbass: each sity they managed to capture for the last two years are total ruins.

Doesn’t Eastern Ukraine have more resources and more ethnic Russians?

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They should probably rename it from "tail" to "neck" and watch the attitudes shift immediately.

Or maybe "dentures"?

If the tail is gone, the dentures become useless

Re: The glass backbone: Why the Army's logistics will break in the next war

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It absolutely does, it can simply choose to not bomb Iran after Iran enforces regulations on its (shared with Oman) waterway. Bombing Iran for a month because Iran fired on 4 ships that were violating its SoH rules is wildly disproportionate and optional.

This is not necessarily true. Yes the strait of hormuz is technically in their territorial waters, but it has been recognized as an international water way until recently. Every country with a port on the other side of the strait is going to lose access. This might not be a tolerable situation to those allies of ours and they also have the ability to force the war to drag on. Maybe we walk and pull out from our bases…

International laws that the USA threw out of the window when this war just began.

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> What's the goal of the US/Iran war? What's the goal?! The US/Iran war has a ton of goals! Every day a new goal, each as improbable as the last.

Not only that, but even the status of the goals is insane. Right now Republicans are just flipping a coin every day to decide whether each "goal" is (A) a critical need where only Dear Leader can save us or (B) a glorious victory for Dear Leader who has solved everything forever. We saw the same with the the mutually-incompatible and shifting "goals" of the illegal taxes on American buyers (tariffs.) Some of those "g…

parafraseando Babylon 5 :

- We ended poverty - When did this happen? - Simply, we changed the dictionary

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