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Ben Bernanke Joins Anthropic Oversight Trust

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Re: Ben Bernanke Joins Anthropic Oversight Trust

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Someone here recently said, “Dishonesty is a core value of Anthropic,” and that aligns with my experience of the company as a user. All their talk about AI safety since the company’s inception now feels like pure theater, given their conduct in everyday operations. It’s a shame how quickly their image has deteriorated.

That's actually exactly how I feel about Anthropic. They play such a PR game, trying really really hard to be seen as the good guys. It feels as another satirical episode of Silicon Valley. It's very clear they are all money and power motivated while also pretending to do all of this for the good of humanity. I have rarely seen that level of hypocrisy and cultish behavior from leadership and employees there. I would…

The funny thing is it’s so transparent. Like… is that the point? They want us to know how dodgy they are, kind of as a “** you”?

Often the point of propaganda is not to convince, it’s to demoralise.

On the other hand I could also believe that they live in such a bubble they genuinely don’t understand how it comes across. Add in a non-negligible amount of neurodivergence and maybe that’s the simplest explanation

Re: Ben Bernanke Joins Anthropic Oversight Trust

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post #35

He's 72 years old, I'm sure he has the best brains and everyone's best interests in mind. This is exactly what I want to see. I'm sure he will have very good opinions on technology and it's implications.

I assume this is sarcasm?

Ben Bernanke would have figured that out already.

Re: Ben Bernanke Joins Anthropic Oversight Trust

#43
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The benefits of modernity (electricity, cars, iPhone, Claude) are good, but they come bundled with potentially terminal ecological costs which is bad.

Yup. Best unplug your computer.

Darn, I tried this and the lithium battery kicked in.

Re: Ben Bernanke Joins Anthropic Oversight Trust

#44

The government response to the ‘08 crisis seems to have worked out better for most big banks (low taxing of negative externalities, growing larger and more profitable), than for regional banks (consolidated) and the bulk of Americans (low median wealth, rising costs of housing/living) Given the data on this[1], this is a confusing choice of hire to ensure AI gains are distributed equitably [1] https://economicprincip…

The having so many tiny regional banks is a holdover from the bad old days when branch banking was largely outlawed.

Re: Ben Bernanke Joins Anthropic Oversight Trust

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The benefits of modernity (electricity, cars, iPhone, Claude) are good, but they come bundled with potentially terminal ecological costs which is bad.

Have people (smarter than me) come up with a good equation - or at least heuristic - to determine what inventions are morally good? I suppose it'd be from a utilitarian perspective? Ex: My gut feeling is nitrogen fixing would rank "low" on "terminal ecological impact" against "positive benefits to humanity"; the Vinyl resurgence would be around the middle; private jets for the Epstein class would the highest etc.

I was being a bit cheeky, but I’m not really arguing that individual inventions can be determined as good or bad. My point is it comes from the same underlying mode of production. "Claude is useful" and "the way we have organised society that led to its creation may be ecologically catastrophic” can both be true.

Re: Ben Bernanke Joins Anthropic Oversight Trust

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except Anthropic has delivered a truly world changing product…

World changing in a good way?

Your question implies a belief that things are 'good' or 'bad', but the reality of the world is a lot more nuanced than that. Pretty much everything that doesn't lead directly to human suffering can be seen as both good and bad.

Re: Ben Bernanke Joins Anthropic Oversight Trust

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post #35

He's 72 years old, I'm sure he has the best brains and everyone's best interests in mind. This is exactly what I want to see. I'm sure he will have very good opinions on technology and it's implications.

I assume this is sarcasm?

Good instinct — this is exactly the kind of issue we should keep an eye on.
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