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The next era of AI is about infrastructure, not just models

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Re: The next era of AI is about infrastructure, not just models

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Post by codemog »

JohnPDickerson wrote: post #18
codemog wrote: post #2

The CEO has a bunch of AI papers. Seems like a smart guy, but I don’t know why he’s using the Mozilla brand or platform to screw around with AI stuff. Maybe because Mozilla makes no money and they’re hoping to jump on the AI bandwagon? I don’t know, doesn’t seem like it will end well..

Author here. The reason I joined the Mozilla ecosystem, and the reason I want to help Mozilla's mission succeed in the era of AI, is identical to the reason I supported Mozilla in my teens and college years during the early browser wars. Then, we had MSFT coming in to create a single point of failure (and control) for your access to the Internet via IE - Firefox combatted that. We're in the same situation now, with y…

Wishing you the best, hope it works out. Would love if Firefox became a bigger player in the browser market too.

Re: The next era of AI is about infrastructure, not just models

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Post by AgentElement »

Octoth0rpe wrote: post #4
codemog wrote: post #2

The CEO has a bunch of AI papers. Seems like a smart guy, but I don’t know why he’s using the Mozilla brand or platform to screw around with AI stuff. Maybe because Mozilla makes no money and they’re hoping to jump on the AI bandwagon? I don’t know, doesn’t seem like it will end well..

> Maybe because Mozilla makes no money Mozilla makes a surprising amount of money, almost entirely from google.

This is a problem. Mozilla is completely dependent on it's primary competitor for funding Firefox. Although I don't agree with Mozilla's current direction, trying to diversify their primary source of income is rational from this perspective.

Re: The next era of AI is about infrastructure, not just models

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Post by behindsight »

JohnPDickerson wrote: post #18
codemog wrote: post #2

The CEO has a bunch of AI papers. Seems like a smart guy, but I don’t know why he’s using the Mozilla brand or platform to screw around with AI stuff. Maybe because Mozilla makes no money and they’re hoping to jump on the AI bandwagon? I don’t know, doesn’t seem like it will end well..

Author here. The reason I joined the Mozilla ecosystem, and the reason I want to help Mozilla's mission succeed in the era of AI, is identical to the reason I supported Mozilla in my teens and college years during the early browser wars. Then, we had MSFT coming in to create a single point of failure (and control) for your access to the Internet via IE - Firefox combatted that. We're in the same situation now, with y…

very well said, and I have been rooting for the team big time!

if you have an alliance hub for discussions with those also building open infrastructure tooling, please let me know!

have already been in the Mozilla AI discord since last year and had a great time being one of the 2 external participants during the name brainstorming for renaming any-llm ^_^

Re: The next era of AI is about infrastructure, not just models

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Post by [deleted] »

SrslyJosh wrote: post #19
JohnPDickerson wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Author here. The reason I joined the Mozilla ecosystem, and the reason I want to help Mozilla's mission succeed in the era of AI, is identical to the reason I supported Mozilla in my teens and college years during the early browser wars. Then, we had MSFT coming in to create a single point of failure (and control) for your access to the Internet via IE - Firefox combatted that. We're in the same situation now, with y…

> We're in the same situation now, with your access to the Internet - commerce, social networking, information - going through a walled garden of Gemini or OAI or Ant or Perplexity. Really? I'm still using the internet, and I don't touch any of that stuff. > by providing developers the ability to choose to use their own AI tooling Wait, what does that have to do with any of what you said before? That doesn't sound li…

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Re: The next era of AI is about infrastructure, not just models

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Post by RunSet »

pier25 wrote: post #27

Why does Mozilla keep diluting their efforts into stuff like AI? From the outside it looks like they barely have resources to keep Firefox competitive.

Apparently to sort tabs.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-use-ai-enhanced-tab...

Re: The next era of AI is about infrastructure, not just models

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Post by phatskat »

RunSet wrote: post #28
pier25 wrote: post #27

Why does Mozilla keep diluting their efforts into stuff like AI? From the outside it looks like they barely have resources to keep Firefox competitive.

Apparently to sort tabs. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-use-ai-enhanced-tab...

Huh. Arc had an interesting AI use where pinned tabs would get renamed automatically to be more informative - about 50/50 in my experience. The best part of this though was the ability to opt-in on a per-use basis - pin the tab, click to rename and just delete the default name and _then_ AI would try.
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