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Re: Google Apps stops accepting free sign-ups

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Create a start-up with:

3 way email sync (mobile/web/desktop) like exchange server (or other enterprise stuff)

A slick feature rich UI

Custom domains via MX

Solid spam filtering

There is nothing out there that does this for under 10$/month per user and I think there is a solid market for a better price point.

Re: Google Apps stops accepting free sign-ups

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post #24

I really hate it when companies try to sugar coat a decision that is all downside for their customers. It may be really hard to do, but Google should just come out and say it: there is no upside for this to anyone except Google . It is not about giving you a better experience or making things more straightforward . It is all about Google deciding to maximize their profits at the expense of their users. That's fine, i…

Google is now more expensive than Exchange Online which is superior in almost every way.

Re: Google Apps stops accepting free sign-ups

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I have no problem paying for a Google Apps account where I actually use Google apps, but at the moment you have to have a Google Apps account to link a domain to an Appengine app. Some of our apps have two or three domains showing the same app, and because you need to have an account for each email address that Appengine sends email from, we have three or four accounts (support, noreply, accounts per domain. So this…

From the post:

> Please note this change has no impact on our existing customers, including those using the free version.

Re: Google Apps stops accepting free sign-ups

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post #8

Contrarian view... by offering One could argue that the removal of the free tier at this point is simply because they've created an entrenched position, but one could also suggest that this creates a modicum of opportunity for another player to try to enter this space. Certainly until today the $ size of the addressable market in the small business email space was practically $0 given Google's position. [discuss :)]

> Certainly until today the $ size of the addressable market in the small business email space was practically $0 given Google's position. Rackspace Mail (formerly MailTrust) has about 200k paying customers for small business e-mail hosting. I've been paying them to host mail on 8 of my domains for years -- Gmail was never appealing to me for various reasons -- so the 24/7/365 support, daily backups and 100% uptime S…

100% uptime SLA? Really?

Re: Google Apps stops accepting free sign-ups

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One of the companies specifically migrated to avoid MS licensing costs (i.e. moving from Outlook to Chrome for the mail interface, Docs on the web/LibreOffice on the desktop).

The take away? You're always gonna pay. Somehow, somewhere, you're gonna pay. Might as well make sure you're getting a good deal rather than hunt for the free lunch. I expect Google will find some way to encourage me to upgrade my legacy free Apps account over the next year. Edit: And I just realized that my Google Plus account is tied to my Google Apps account. If they raise prices on me I'm screwed.

Start migrating your circles to a gmail account :)

Re: Google Apps stops accepting free sign-ups

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post #24

I really hate it when companies try to sugar coat a decision that is all downside for their customers. It may be really hard to do, but Google should just come out and say it: there is no upside for this to anyone except Google . It is not about giving you a better experience or making things more straightforward . It is all about Google deciding to maximize their profits at the expense of their users. That's fine, i…

Google isn't discontinuing its free service to existing users, they're just no longer offering a free level for new sign ups.

Re: Google Apps stops accepting free sign-ups

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I used to run my own one-user email system. The hosting alone cost $240 a year. And I had to spend a lot of time configuring exim4 (and spamassassin and clam-av), figuring out which email indexer to use, setting up offlineimap, running cron jobs to archive mailing lists, coercing a friend to run a secondary MX for me, etc., etc. I didn't enjoy it all. And no matter what I did to reduce spam, about 10 messages a day a…

All you need is a forwarding service to forward the incoming mail to your gmail account, as regular personal gmail can handle sending out email with a different from address. No exim4, no spamassassin, no clam-av, no figuring out which indexer to use, or any of that. Just a forward on the incoming mail.

I think most people would consider that cheating... You're hardly running your own email server, and still using Google.

I actually miss running my own email domain, the privacy of it, not the actual administration. I stopped when I had gotten so crazy with aliases and disposable addresses that the spam overwhelmed me. Wasn't worth the time to 'do it right,' and I gave up my privacy for the simplicity of GMail.

I would love to leave GMail and take my privacy back, but I haven't found an acceptable alternative yet.

Re: Google Apps stops accepting free sign-ups

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post #168

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You can still use GMail with any domain: http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answe... This method is actually far more convenient than setting up Google Apps. You can both send and receive mail at the other domain, and you get a unified inbox (which Google Apps never provided).

No, that method requires that the other domain have its own mail server to accept and store the mail until gmail comes and fetches it with POP. Who will host that other server? Google Apps for domains lets you point your domain's MX record directly at Google, and Google accepts the mail for you.

The important part of Google Apps is the GMail interface, not the SMTP service. SMTP hosting is easy to come by; most hosting services include it with their web hosting packages.

Re: Google Apps stops accepting free sign-ups

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to run my own one-user email system. The hosting alone cost $240 a year. And I had to spend a lot of time configuring exim4 (and spamassassin and clam-av), figuring out which email indexer to use, setting up offlineimap, running cron jobs to archive mailing lists, coercing a friend to run a secondary MX for me, etc., etc. I didn't enjoy it all. And no matter what I did to reduce spam, about 10 messages a day a…

You might be right. I'm just steamed about a nice tidy free option being swept right out from under me with no warning at all. Sleep on it I guess, see how it looks in the morning.

If you already signed up, you continue to get free service. There's no warning necessary because there are no changes for existing customers.
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