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Post by mghackerlady »

kombookcha wrote: post #57
dofm wrote: post #20

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Seems likely that Spotify is stuffed full of "songs" with zero listens now.

Yeah, I think this is an unfortunate casualty of the AI age. Instead of discovering a weird fast food employee orientation CD or somebody's niche garage album from 1996 that was semi-accidentally uploaded by whoever happens to own it now, you're just getting thousands of fake songs made by bots.

I feel like it'd be worth it for someone to create an online library of CDs. People could send in their CDs if they weren't already archived, the music would be ripped and stored as flacs, and the CD would be sent back. The library could provide access to the files for the sort of thing nobody is going to issue a takedown for (aforementioned orientation CD or niche garage album) over the net

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Post by m3047 »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #88
xnorswap wrote: post #86

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I understand the romantic appeal of discovering "abandoned" books and forgotten ideas. However I suspect my reaction to your anecdote is very different to the one that most people might have, because I think that behaviour is harmful to the library. ( A very minor harm, but a harm nonetheless. ) They have identified books that people don't borrow, and have made it clear they want to get rid of them. That's to benefit…

If the library wanted to get rid of them, they would've quietly removed the books; I suspect they want people to read them before they're removed, hence the "please give this book a chance" marker. A deprecation marker is a "this will be removed"; these markers are "this will be removed if nobody reads them even with this marker in them".

Without digressing into spy vs spy, I think deprecation warnings (shared with the customer base) are a good thing. It might not be a good thing for sales, but that's not a concern here either. A / B testing: if I see that, then what tells me WTF is going on? (You lose me here anyway, sales.)

Agree on the language lawyering, too. ;-)

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Post by DanielVZ »

christoff12 wrote: post #35
DanielVZ wrote: post #30

My first art work was a drawing of a bunch of couches flying. I loved it. I came back here to comment about it without noticing I’d lose track of it. I tried searching in the collection but I couldn’t find it, so if anyone finds a sketch of a bunch of couches, I’d appreciate a link. Somehow this made this experience even more wonderful.

this one? https://www.artic.edu/artworks/192466/floating-chairs-flying...

ah yes that one. thanks!

Re: Has_not_been_viewed_much

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Post by kombookcha »

mghackerlady wrote: post #121
kombookcha wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I think this is an unfortunate casualty of the AI age. Instead of discovering a weird fast food employee orientation CD or somebody's niche garage album from 1996 that was semi-accidentally uploaded by whoever happens to own it now, you're just getting thousands of fake songs made by bots.

I feel like it'd be worth it for someone to create an online library of CDs. People could send in their CDs if they weren't already archived, the music would be ripped and stored as flacs, and the CD would be sent back. The library could provide access to the files for the sort of thing nobody is going to issue a takedown for (aforementioned orientation CD or niche garage album) over the net

I know there are communities of people dedicated to doing this with old VHS-tapes and DVDs, so I am guessing somebody is likely chipping away at CD's like this in some capacity. It would be wonderful it it could grow into something like what you're suggesting.

A major surface area for this sort of work is oddly enough on youtube - you can find truly obscure demo tapes and records digitized and uploaded there. You'd think the copyright demons would eat these videos alive, but it seems like they don't.

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Post by xtajv »

gcr wrote: post #94
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #88

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If the library wanted to get rid of them, they would've quietly removed the books; I suspect they want people to read them before they're removed, hence the "please give this book a chance" marker. A deprecation marker is a "this will be removed"; these markers are "this will be removed if nobody reads them even with this marker in them".

Reframing this point: Some good books aren’t borrowed because they’re not discoverable, not because they’re boring. The library is highlighting a few titles for increased visibility to ask, “would this pique a reader’s interest if they knew about it, or is this generally bad?” Without this stage, the library would expunge more genuinely interesting titles. I’ve always kinda felt the role of a library is for recall ra…

"Don't judge a book by its cover" :)

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Post by robin_reala »

eudamoniac wrote: post #101
coldpie wrote: post #99

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> Never regretted reading them Interesting! I'm surprised to hear you've had that experience. I pick out books at the library largely by the cover & back blurb, not by whether they're popular or well reviewed or whatever. And to be honest, I've picked out a lot of crap this way, where I turn it back in after just a chapter or two. I suspect that frequency of being checked out & popularity/well-reviewed-ness are corre…

I have around 1200 ebooks in Calibre; around 300 I downloaded on purpose and the rest came in large batches. I have these two groups separated out. I'm pretty sure I've never read one from the batch group that was close to good. The vast majority of books are crap and if you pick at random you're going to pick crap. Most of my batch books are from Standard Ebooks which, while a noble project, has a serious addiction…

SE just publishes stuff that volunteers want to work on. There’s no master plan beyond the collections policy: https://standardebooks.org/contribute/collections-policy

Re: Has_not_been_viewed_much

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Post by eudamoniac »

robin_reala wrote: post #126
eudamoniac wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have around 1200 ebooks in Calibre; around 300 I downloaded on purpose and the rest came in large batches. I have these two groups separated out. I'm pretty sure I've never read one from the batch group that was close to good. The vast majority of books are crap and if you pick at random you're going to pick crap. Most of my batch books are from Standard Ebooks which, while a noble project, has a serious addiction…

SE just publishes stuff that volunteers want to work on. There’s no master plan beyond the collections policy: https://standardebooks.org/contribute/collections-policy

Well it turns out that the volunteers have bad taste I'm afraid
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