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Buried Apple feature turns an iPhone into the perfect kids' dumb phone

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Re: Buried Apple feature turns an iPhone into the perfect kids' dumb phone

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Post by moralestapia »

wpm wrote: post #58
eigencoder wrote: post #57

I like the feature, but I don't like the assumption at the beginning. > Come September, he will have to walk across town to school on his own. But if he's going to be walking around out in the world without me, then a tracking tag won't cut it. He is far too young to have unfettered access to the internet and social media platforms, but what if he gets lost? A classic Nokia, supplying just texts and calls, won't come…

the idea of tagging my kid with a tracker like they're a wild bird being tracked is repugnant

Just a suggestion, be more mindful when you make comments involving other people's kids.

(which is generally a no-no unless you're invited to)

On the internet is fine, but I've been to places around the world where a comment like that would result in black eyes, missing teeth, etc.

Re: Buried Apple feature turns an iPhone into the perfect kids' dumb phone

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Post by JoeBOFH »

hamburglar wrote: post #48
bawolff wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What age groups are we talking here, because if we're talking about a 7 year old, giving them unfettered screen time is probably bad parenting. However if we are talking about someone old enough to have gf/bf its probably also bad parenting to not let them develop their own self control around technology. They have to be an adult eventually.

I started my kid at 12 with an extremely locked down iPhone. She fights the restrictions at every turn and I have to make sure that she understands that finding loopholes is fun but also if I catch her violating the spirit of the restrictions there will be consequences. So she proudly tells me about clever workarounds she finds but still puts the phone away at the appropriate times. It’s kind of fun that she’s develo…

That’s how we handle it with ours as well. He found a way around a certain control and we opened a bug report with the vendor and it was acknowledged and fixed. He then realized he locked out other kids with that and laughed and tries to find more worth reporting.

Re: Buried Apple feature turns an iPhone into the perfect kids' dumb phone

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Post by sbayg »

Cider9986 wrote: post #6

Mobile Device Management (MDM) is the only effective way to restrict idevices. All you need is a macbook and Apple Configurator. You can remove safari, blacklist or whitelist websites, block installing apps, block deleting apps. It's really customizable. Edit: expanded acronym.

MDM is the worst part of iOS. It undermines all of apple’s security claims, basically making iOS windows. Devices should not be able to be remotely controlled.

Re: Buried Apple feature turns an iPhone into the perfect kids' dumb phone

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Post by thatmf »

For some reason when I opened this the sound of a helicopter hovering shook the walls.

> Come September, he will have to walk across town to school on his own.

*THE HORROR*

> But if he's going to be walking around out in the world without me, then a tracking tag won't cut it.

Uhhhhhhhhh. The way this is stated so plainly as if it were self-evident fact is telling. The author longs for the umbilical cord.

> but what if he gets lost?

What if he learns a life lesson, navigation and/or some form of self-reliance or independence?

I just... no wonder Kids Today are so cooked.

Re: Buried Apple feature turns an iPhone into the perfect kids' dumb phone

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Post by walt_grata »

moralestapia wrote: post #61
wpm wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the idea of tagging my kid with a tracker like they're a wild bird being tracked is repugnant

Just a suggestion, be more mindful when you make comments involving other people's kids. (which is generally a no-no unless you're invited to) On the internet is fine, but I've been to places around the world where a comment like that would result in black eyes, missing teeth, etc.

What did they actually say about some's kida?

Knocking out someones teeth would necessitate filing charges

Re: Buried Apple feature turns an iPhone into the perfect kids' dumb phone

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Post by moralestapia »

walt_grata wrote: post #65
moralestapia wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just a suggestion, be more mindful when you make comments involving other people's kids. (which is generally a no-no unless you're invited to) On the internet is fine, but I've been to places around the world where a comment like that would result in black eyes, missing teeth, etc.

What did they actually say about some's kida? Knocking out someones teeth would necessitate filing charges

Oh, absolutely! I would just prefer to avoid all of that.

Re: Buried Apple feature turns an iPhone into the perfect kids' dumb phone

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Post by sbayg »

05 wrote: post #37
mvdwoord wrote: post #3

"You must disable SIM PIN to enable Assistive Access..."

Also refuses to activate with alphanumeric passcode enabled..

I could sort of imagine plausible reasons for that, but not allowing sim pin seems… nonobvious.

Re: Buried Apple feature turns an iPhone into the perfect kids' dumb phone

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Post by littlecranky67 »

xnx wrote: post #38

Summary: Simplify the iPhone home screen with large icons for kids or seniors: Settings > Accessibility > General section at the very bottom > Assistive Access

it is not just simplified, it lets you chose which apps to show in that "simplified" view. For the elderly, that removes a lot of clutter and ways to shot yourself in the foot.

Re: Buried Apple feature turns an iPhone into the perfect kids' dumb phone

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Post by baxtr »

eigencoder wrote: post #57

I like the feature, but I don't like the assumption at the beginning. > Come September, he will have to walk across town to school on his own. But if he's going to be walking around out in the world without me, then a tracking tag won't cut it. He is far too young to have unfettered access to the internet and social media platforms, but what if he gets lost? A classic Nokia, supplying just texts and calls, won't come…

We had some friends over last form the US. One 11 yr kid in the group was bored and said: ok I’m gonna go home now, I need the keys please.

He walked home by himself - maybe 500 meters… For us Europeans it was nothing to notice really, but the Americans were absolutely shocked.

Re: Buried Apple feature turns an iPhone into the perfect kids' dumb phone

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Post by senko »

hamburglar wrote: post #59
NuclearPM wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s how 80s kids learned computers and programming. Trying to install a game and having to lookup what the hell “fat32” was.

Dude. 80’s kids think of FAT32 as that new filesystem that supports more than 8.3.

You guys had filesystems??
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