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EU Parliament greenlights Chat Control 1.0

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Re: EU Parliament greenlights Chat Control 1.0

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Post by tetha »

bluescrn wrote: post #307
throwaway27448 wrote: post #242

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Gee maybe they should prepare to avoid war then

They thought climate change was the next war-level crisis, and worked towards that. They didn't anticipate the Ukraine invasion, or the Middle East blowing up again.

> They thought climate change was the next war-level crisis, and worked towards that.

Did we though? At least in Germany a bunch of anti-climate-change projects and changes have been and are being canceled and we're going back to coal and diesel. It seems we're optimizing to have no results and negative progress at the moment.

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Post by mflaherty22 »

rowanG077 wrote: post #366
GiorgioG wrote: post #362

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So 112 MEPs didn't do their job...got it.

Politicians can take vacations. Many things went wrong here but this ain't it.

Very reductionist comment- if you're an elected representative and you leave early to take a vacation knowing you'll be missing votes, you're not doing your job..

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Post by ClumsyPilot »

nick486 wrote: post #82
budududuroiu wrote: post #6

Roberta Metsola's actions this week jeopardise the legitimacy of the EU project as a whole. It's clear that member countries use the EU as a blame-laundering mechanism to pass domestically unpopular laws, but the forcing of this vote under the urgency procedure that requires absolute majority to reject, on the last EP session before summer break is so blatant that it might awaken people that might've overlooked the s…

I'm really surprised at the hurry. The EU, and many EU governments, have been ramming through deeply unpopular legislation at a breakneck pace for no apparent reason, lately. It feels like the last turn in a board game where everyone is busy taking points with no regard for the impact of the decisions on the theoretical next turn - because there is no next turn. Its really weird. > blame-laundering mechanism Also, I'…

> at a breakneck pace for no apparent reason

So many reasons: unpopular wars in the Middle East, repeated embarrassments in international arena, domestic unrest, decadent elites…

Re: EU Parliament greenlights Chat Control 1.0

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Post by aliasxneo »

mrguyorama wrote: post #359
aliasxneo wrote: post #282

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At least I have still have a 2nd amendment - and, at least for now, still post on social media without getting a knock on my door.

Tens of millions of Americans, usually supporters of the 2nd, have openly declared that having a firearm on you while at a protest is a crime punishable by death, and have done nothing to stand up against Trump, who has openly declared his hostility to the 2nd amendment multiple times now. Bringing a rifle to a protest you expect to get hot, brandishing it about, and then shooting someone in self defense is perfectly…

There's idiots on all sides. Plenty of sane people who are too busy working and raising families instead of loudly participating in politics that still hold a balanced view on the subject.

I can hold the situation you cited as an example that should be shown in training in how not to handle a situation like that while at the same time vehemently pushing back against the bureaucrats trying to disarm me. It's why I've always identified as an independent my whole life.

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Post by alberto467 »

rowanG077 wrote: post #366
GiorgioG wrote: post #362

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So 112 MEPs didn't do their job...got it.

Politicians can take vacations. Many things went wrong here but this ain't it.

Exactly. The issue is them being automatically in favor, that’s a really extreme measure I as an eu citizen did not know about, even though I’d say I’m probably more informed then the average and was made to study eu history, structure and laws in school. That kind of stuff is really weird, even weirder is that such an emergency measure can be activated without countries being in active war or the like.

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Post by ClumsyPilot »

bluescrn wrote: post #307
throwaway27448 wrote: post #242

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gee maybe they should prepare to avoid war then

They thought climate change was the next war-level crisis, and worked towards that. They didn't anticipate the Ukraine invasion, or the Middle East blowing up again.

> They didn't anticipate…the Middle East blowing up again

Yes, interesting that the People dropping bombs did not anticipate blowing up.

Our elites have revealed many flaws recently, but one I did not expect is that they have surprisingly limited intelligence.

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Post by joe_mamba »

mflaherty22 wrote: post #372
rowanG077 wrote: post #366

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Politicians can take vacations. Many things went wrong here but this ain't it.

Very reductionist comment- if you're an elected representative and you leave early to take a vacation knowing you'll be missing votes, you're not doing your job..

This. When I need to take my summer vacation, I need to request it to my manager in due time so the team can plan customer deliveries accordingly, and in my last day before leaving I need to do a handover of my open tasks to whoever will do the work in my absence. I can't just spontaneously decide one day that tomorrow I'm leaving for 2-4 weeks on vacation with no notice and no handover to my team.

What's stopping MEPs from having to do that? Do they have literally zero responsibilities and accountabilities? Because their job is pretty critical for our society an security, even if a trained monkey could do it in theory.

Re: EU Parliament greenlights Chat Control 1.0

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Post by joe_mamba »

alberto467 wrote: post #376
rowanG077 wrote: post #366

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Politicians can take vacations. Many things went wrong here but this ain't it.

Exactly. The issue is them being automatically in favor, that’s a really extreme measure I as an eu citizen did not know about, even though I’d say I’m probably more informed then the average and was made to study eu history, structure and laws in school. That kind of stuff is really weird, even weirder is that such an emergency measure can be activated without countries being in active war or the like.

>That kind of stuff is really weird, even weirder is that such an emergency measure can be activated without countries being in active war or the like.

What's also just as weird is how the EU can just straight up sanction, debank and make European citizens virtually homeless overnight, without even a trial day in court. Absolutely insane.

This is some NAZI/USSR shit, except you don't get executed, you just get deranked and made homeless and maybe die from that on the whims of some bureaucrat in another country.

We gave the EU superpowers to "protect us" but never asked ourselves what happens when they use those powers against us when people vocally don't agree with their agenda.

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Post by ClumsyPilot »

joe_mamba wrote: post #251
throwaway27448 wrote: post #242

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Gee maybe they should prepare to avoid war then

That's why the EU is a neutral pushover bowing down to the whims and tantrum of US, China, Iran, India, Turkey, etc. because a lot of their industry, energy, exports/imports are from those countries so any disputes would be devastating to the EU economy. They're trying to avoid any conflict since they have no energy and hard power to counter any confrontations, so they smile and nod to anything happening worldwide or…

This narrative is a fabrication.

EU spends 33% of World’s military spending, once you exclude US. EU spends more on military than China.

How much do you need to spend to defend yourself, 60% of the world?

Mind you, many western weapons, like stinger and javelin, cost more than their weight in silver. Sounds like a scam

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