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The glass backbone: Why the Army's logistics will break in the next war

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Re: The glass backbone: Why the Army's logistics will break in the next war

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Are you under the impression that humanity could reach a state where there is never another major war? I don't know how one would reach that conclusion, least of all a Major at the nation's leading military educational institute. Nothing "hell-bent" about it.

People were starting to think that way at the "end of history" period between the Cold War and 9/11. At that time the major powers were not involved in wars, and it was believed that regional ones could be "solved" like Yugoslavia. 9/11 was a huge success for Bin Laden's goal of restarting a forever war, though.

> People were starting to think that way at the "end of history" period between the Cold War and 9/11.

And between WW1 and WW2. And just before WW1, during the Belle Époque. And probably before that, too.

Re: The glass backbone: Why the Army's logistics will break in the next war

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post #165

I would not underestimate the power of a fully mobilized USA. If we really need to, we can do a lot of things that would die to bureaucracy in peacetime - see WWII.

I read there was actually significant war exhaustion among the public towards the end, contrary to the patriotism lens this time in history is frequently shown with. There was also a lot of effort to censor what was actually happening in the war from the public, both in terms of press coverage and in screening soldier letters to home. I'm not sure how long the american war machine can actually last. All the post WWII…

What’s more damaging at home? Pictures of your own soldiers dying, or video of the war crimes they are committing?

Sadly, most wars generate both.

Re: The glass backbone: Why the Army's logistics will break in the next war

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post #134

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I'm not sure anything is a distraction from the Epstein files. I don't think the administration cares about the Epstein files. What would be the fallout if they were all released? We already know that a lot of wealthy people were raping children. It's not like the US is going to prosecute.

Depends on who's in it.

An open secret as to who is.

Re: The glass backbone: Why the Army's logistics will break in the next war

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No serious really argued that; what they argued is that a Mars colony is impractical, interplanetary travel as a fantasy, and data centers in space as delusional.

Having followed SpaceX since the beginning, this is not true at all. People doubted every single step. Industry experts did.

Re: The glass backbone: Why the Army's logistics will break in the next war

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post #159
post #113

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> Where are the armored vehicles now in Ukraine? A more appropriate question might be, where are the armored vehicles now in Russia? And as it turns out, they have indeed started adding armor to transport craft, including trains: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_armoured_train_Yenisei And despite Ukrainian strikes earlier, the Russian bridge over the Kerch strait remains standing and in use for some (not all) lo…

But it also stands to ask, why isn't the bridge being constantly targeted? What factors are weighing ukrainian decisionmaking to not simply strike the hell out of this bridge until it falls? The strikes ukraine makes in russian territory seem like they are extremely successful but limited in quantity and scope. Why not push that envelope? Some factors must exist that prefer these attacks to be small scale headline ma…

> Why not push that envelope?

The US have have been a nightmare for Ukraine, obstructive and unreliable. The European allies have slowly stepped up, but it’s been painful.

As dependence on the US has reduced, you can see the Ukrainian attacks increase in number, range and audacity.

Distant targets are getting hit. This week shipping had been hit hard, and the Crimea has taken a lot of damage. Bridges and logistics.

It’s all happening. Keep an eye on https://old.reddit.com/r/ukraine/

It’s a heavily skewed perspective but it if often accurate.

Re: The glass backbone: Why the Army's logistics will break in the next war

#228
post #188

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My understanding is that Russia's "full throttle" isn't actually as strong as they had posed...

It has to be stronger than Israel just from scale, and that seems plenty strong enough to level a modern city in a few days or weeks.

Ukraine has a proper army with proper weapons and strong foreign support; Gaza only has a bunch of militias with outdated arms and makeshift rockets. Obviously, fighting Gaza is easier than fighting Ukraine.

Re: The glass backbone: Why the Army's logistics will break in the next war

#229
post #70

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My point is that war is the worst thing that humans can engage in, and that the prevailing sentiment is that constant war is an immutable status-quo, and hence it's okay, there's nothing we can do except downvoting those fucking negativists.

I think the folks disagreeing with you maybe haven't spent much time in war. Almost certainly some in harsh skirmishes, but I reckon a few Nam, Korea and WWII vets would at least entertain your position on the subject. Pretty much every meta variation of terror has surfaced or has the potential to surface in war. Parts of Ukraine, I think, easily represent hell on Earth, for both sides. Edit: I will go a bit further.…

Sorry for the personal question, but are you a military vet? Because from the way you seem to respect soldiers yet abhor war, it sure does seem that you are.

Re: The glass backbone: Why the Army's logistics will break in the next war

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post #84

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Initially it's unclear what the goal was. But now the goal must be opening the strait of Hormuz ASAP. There's going to be serious economic fallout if that doesn't happen[0]. It remains to be seen how realistic that goal actually is. Iran has big advantages in their favor. [0] https://www.cnn.com/2026/07/08/business/iran-oil-trump-strai...

Can we agree on "the strait was open before the war" so it can't be a goal for the war.

No, unfortunately, because circumstances change. It was unbelievably stupid to attack Iran, and everyone involved knew this might happen, but now that it has happened it needs to be dealt with one way or the other.
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