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Intuit tries to call Mint's bluff? Is this normal?

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Re: Intuit tries to call Mint's bluff? Is this normal?

#13

I signed up sometime last week to check it out, and my six-digit bank account ID numbers in Mint's database are 6079xx and 6079xx+1. They're sequential, so there are 600,000ish rows in the table, but that's not necessarily proof that they're all active. I don't use Mint for anything really, but technically I'm a user.

Mint's user data is sharded across multiple DB's. So if you're the first user on a fresh DB, your bank account will have ID 1. Also, users usually have multiple bank accounts as well, so accountId isn't a good indicator of # of users.

Re: Intuit tries to call Mint's bluff? Is this normal?

#14
I love mint. I actually caught fraud on my credit card while checking my balances on my iPhone through mint's app while at work. I was thinking of writing them a thank you letter.

I would have been tempted to reply something like this:

"At Mint, we have an algorithm to calculate the number of users we have. This function is defined as follows:

mint users = (average logins during the past 7 business days / (registrations - closed accounts)^last business day's S&P 500 closing price - average rainfall of the Amazon basin during the past 6 months[in inches]) * 0 + number of Intuit customers ^ 2

As you can see, here at Mint we may have even underestimated the number of users we have"

Re: Intuit tries to call Mint's bluff? Is this normal?

#15
Why would Mint even respond to a letter like that? I could understand if, say, it were a reporter asking, but what right does a competitor have to demand such figures? Let alone so rudely.

Though I suppose if the competition is determined to make themselves look like assholes, furnishing a polite reply and then leaking the whole thing isn't a bad way to help them out.

Re: Intuit tries to call Mint's bluff? Is this normal?

#16
post #6

so I can just email any company and demand them to give out their proprietary data? Mint should have told them to go to hell.

This is essentially data Mint publishes on its front page, and has mentioned in press releases before. I don't think that really qualifies as proprietary.

Re: Intuit tries to call Mint's bluff? Is this normal?

#17

I love mint. I actually caught fraud on my credit card while checking my balances on my iPhone through mint's app while at work. I was thinking of writing them a thank you letter. I would have been tempted to reply something like this: "At Mint, we have an algorithm to calculate the number of users we have. This function is defined as follows: mint users = (average logins during the past 7 business days / (registrati…

I actually caught fraud on my credit card while checking my balances on my iPhone through mint's app while at work.

Don't you read the charges on your statement before you pay it?

Re: Intuit tries to call Mint's bluff? Is this normal?

#18
post #15

Why would Mint even respond to a letter like that? I could understand if, say, it were a reporter asking, but what right does a competitor have to demand such figures? Let alone so rudely. Though I suppose if the competition is determined to make themselves look like assholes, furnishing a polite reply and then leaking the whole thing isn't a bad way to help them out.

Hmm, I suppose if someone wanted to be truly a dick to quicken, they could have the publicly available figures printed onto a large billboard (the ones that go on the back of trucks) and park it in front of intuit's HQ.

That's one way to present the info :)

Re: Intuit tries to call Mint's bluff? Is this normal?

#19
post #3

As you are no doubt aware, all advertising claims must be verified and substantiated before they are used in advertising. Now that's a novel idea. Nine out of ten doctors agree.

Sure, but nobody said you had to say what the other 90 doctors you asked thought.

Re: Intuit tries to call Mint's bluff? Is this normal?

#20
post #4

I can just picture a large board room at Intuit of stuffy suits all sitting around baffled how this tiny startup is managing to totally dominate them. I'm going to sign up for Mint right now. Fun fact: A safer way a company can brag in advertising is called "puffing" http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/puffing

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