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Post by windexh8er »

make3 wrote: post #478
windexh8er wrote: post #444

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Not saying you aren't good at your job but this statement gives me pause. Given what I see on the daily as output from models I hope there's still a lot of human interrupt behind the wheel with respect to the design of drugs.

Every drug indeed has a huge burden of proof before it is distributed to humans, including the 3 levels of FDA clinical drug trials that cost billions of dollars, as well as all the internal testing we do beforehand.

How are models improving your process? And how do you grapple with model inconsistencies?

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Post by streb-lo »

filoleg wrote: post #218
jonstaab wrote: post #76

This is the opposite direction AI should be going. Human relationships are the most valuable thing we have, and so, naturally, technology seeks to intermediate and now replace them. I'm not Catholic, but this podcast presents a very interesting argument against talking to AI as if they were human: https://newpolity.com/podcasts-hub/debate-chatbots

> This is the opposite direction AI should be going. Human relationships are the most valuable thing we have, and so, naturally, technology seeks to intermediate and now replace them. Valid, but, I think, you conflate two separate things. AI voice mode as a human socialization/conversation replacement? Cringe in my book, fully in agreement with you. Though my opinion on that aspect remains the same, regardless of whe…

Basically 100% of my interaction with AI is some form of question.

But there are people that treat it like a therapist or a friend.

In my opinion, the 2nd group should be discouraged from using these agents in this way, as it cannot be healthy. But if places like Reddit etc. turn into bot towns where do the AI companies get insight into the general population? Through the eyes of their most mentally unstable users?

So I don't really see things changing, and they'll probably get worse.

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Post by jdiff »

Someone1234 wrote: post #104
100ms wrote: post #33

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Is it responsive to personality settings? I actively don't want fake AI girlfriend, but I do get a ton of value out of voice mode. Looking forward to trying this but hoping it's not a creepy overdone mess (like Sesame). Expectations are they'll keep doubling down on fake AI girlfriend approach because the thing I want probably wouldn't drive engagement anywhere nearly as well

I too found this with their previous attempts. I have my Chat personality settings stripped right down to no-fluff. I'd want voice to be more akin to the Star Trek computer, and less akin to as you said an AI friend, but previously it was tuned too personable/friend-like.

I explicitly prompt my small local models to channel that kind of energy. It's one of few ways to get them to just spit it out without yapping on about temperature- and humidity-appropriate activities when I just asked if it'll rain this week.

You do have to do it carefully and not literally say "Star Trek" or else it'll start yapping about main shields being at full strength.

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Post by jdthedisciple »

FridgeSeal wrote: post #496
hoppp wrote: post #102

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But a lot of humans can't engage in meaningful technical conversations... So why not use a tool for that?

Somewhat of a self-fulfilling prophecy no? - nobody else with the skills - talk to machine - nobody develops the skills to have a conversation - go to step 1. - bonus step: your own skills atrophy too.

Devil's advocate: The widespread lack of social skills was not caused by LLMs in the first place. In fact, AI ChatBots, if used right, can actually help remedy lacking socialising skills.

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Post by anon-3988 »

batperson wrote: post #514
anon-3988 wrote: post #407

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> I think this tech is far more important for lonely people who for any reason don't get to socialize much (if at all), this is especially common in older people. Uhm, those lonely people need to get out and start talking. How is this going to help society? This is going to make it worse. Oh that kid is kinda quite and sad? Throw him an iPad. Oh that adult is kinda bored and wandering aimlessly? Throw him into a casi…

What about people with disabilities, physical or mental, who can't get out, old people with no family or family who doesn't care? In theory it would be great if everyone got some attention and socialized, in reality a lot of people in society are forgotten, no one wants to talk to them. For some of these people even talking to a robot would likely be a huge improvement in quality of life, and that's just talking. If…

> What about people with disabilities, physical or mental, who can't get out, old people with no family or family who doesn't care? In theory it would be great if everyone got some attention and socialized, in reality a lot of people in society are forgotten, no one wants to talk to them.

I mentioned in another comment that I totally get it for these people. You are using the extreme cases to justify opioid for the masses. The moment you "solved" human loneliness and interacting by giving them drugged up with chatbots, its over. I am telling you, it is over.

AI psychosis is bad enough as it is with really poor imitation. The moment it can imitate and fool the average person, I just don't see why most people need real friends anymore. We will NEVER be able to get it out of kids hand, the cats out of the bag. You think kids growing up with social media and ipad is bad? Lets see what happens if they live in actual fantasy land with their robotic friends.

I don't even know if I want to live in that world anymore.

Also, your solution to lonely people with disabilities or old age is to create robotic "Friends" for them? This is just sickening. You might as well just drug them. The _actual_ solution is to create a compassionate society where this doesn't happen. The solution to overworked society isn't more opium to relieve the pain.

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Post by jonstaab »

batperson wrote: post #514
anon-3988 wrote: post #407

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> I think this tech is far more important for lonely people who for any reason don't get to socialize much (if at all), this is especially common in older people. Uhm, those lonely people need to get out and start talking. How is this going to help society? This is going to make it worse. Oh that kid is kinda quite and sad? Throw him an iPad. Oh that adult is kinda bored and wandering aimlessly? Throw him into a casi…

What about people with disabilities, physical or mental, who can't get out, old people with no family or family who doesn't care? In theory it would be great if everyone got some attention and socialized, in reality a lot of people in society are forgotten, no one wants to talk to them. For some of these people even talking to a robot would likely be a huge improvement in quality of life, and that's just talking. If…

These people are an opportunity for the rest of us to be better people, to show compassion and mercy. They are not worthless to the rest of society. Giving them LLM companions says that they are — that their only self-worth is their feelings.

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Post by chc4 »

artdigital wrote: post #25

What I’m missing from this announcement is the capability to use connectors and tools. I don’t really get it - NONE of the frontier assistants can use tools / connectors while in voice mode - Claude, ChatGPT, Gemini, Grok. It seems so obvious: I want to be able to research stuff, pull up documents, jot down notes and do productive work while I’m talking to it, and not end voice mode whenever I need to connect to an a…

Huh? You can expose tool functions to Gemini's live API, and it will call them as part of thinking about responses. I've used this to expose e.g. current GPS location for a smartwatch voice assistant.

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Post by supern0va »

FridgeSeal wrote: post #495
supern0va wrote: post #372

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I can't help but think you're conflating cause and effect. People are using a tool (AI) to apply a band-aid to a widespread social problem (loneliness and isolation). It's possible that an "AI boyfriend" might make someone less prone to put in the continued effort to keep rolling the dice on dating apps, but the reality is that there's a more fundamental problem driving this. Also, I want this tool for work. Just bec…

“Who cares about dirty syringes being left in the street, it’s really important for my work that I have access to the heroin I need”. Things in society don’t exist in a vacuum, and “who cares about them, so long as I get my needs” is quite literally a part of the problem being discussed.

I'd argue what you're suggesting is more like trying to ban syringes, which have multiple valid uses, in order to stop dirty syringes being left in the street.

As someone with a GLP-1 user at home, responsibly depositing their syringes in an approved container that we dispose of safely at a drop site, I'd rather not have bad users inhibit my access to a tool that makes our lives better.

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