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EU Parliament greenlights Chat Control 1.0

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Re: EU Parliament greenlights Chat Control 1.0

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This is a nice piece of democracy right here: "a measure it had rejected twice in March. Although a majority of voting Members of the European Parliament (MEPs) actually opposed the regulation (314 against, 276 in favor, 17 abstentions), the motion to reject it failed to secure the required absolute majority of 361 votes. As a result, mass scanning is now permitted again until 2028." "Oh no we can't get a majority to…

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We're currently running a long-term offshore experiment to see if 2A has any measurable impact on dragnet surveillance and the NSA.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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It's a metaphor for a process. Calling people names like "maxxers" is unhelpful and probably against the rules here.

>It's a metaphor for a process. Calling people names like "maxxers" is unhelpful and probably against the rules here.

Yeah we don't mean frogs, that's obvious. Calling people maxxers being offensive is surprising. Maybe you should consider offended for being called cancer instead?

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Brought to you - as always - by the Conservatives. Conservatism is just fascism with a slightly nicer image.

EU conservatives are just moderate leftists, who cares.

What are you even saying? As a leftist, I want nothing to do with those fascists.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And the temperature of the frog pot rises by one degree.

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I disagree. The definition of "bad actor" constantly changes. Something you do legally today can and will become illegal in the future, and if you don't change your ways, you will be a bad actor, too.

The people pushing for this under the guise of protecting children are the same people who went on The Island, or at least protect those who did. They never cared about children's safety.

The biggest criminals of all are the very same people pushing for these laws, this surveillance, this control. Don't be fooled.

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I mean, even the victims themselves came out and explicitly emphasized that scanning chat messages does not help.

I'm feeling these politicians was not doing it for the victims. Instead, it's almost like the victims are providing reasons to allow the politicians to expand their own power.

The Accelerationism (see note below) part of me think it's a good thing, because a heavily regulated country is often also a backward country. Doing things like this long enough, then you get out competed by everyone else, your population shrinks to zero and your land gets reused.

(Note: The word "Accelerationism" in the Chinese dissidents circle means that, if a bad future is certain and it trends to destroy itself eventually, we might as well just let it happen faster, so the pain maybe shorter. More: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerator-in-Chief)

Look, EU obviously have a few good regulations. But a regulation must be correctly designed and implemented, and it must not punish good people. Scanning private messages is a punishment to all.

If EU must scan something, I'd say scanning all messages/phone calls sent out by the politicians might do more good, consider how much trust people put on them (maybe they shouldn't).

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Maybe a dumb question, but what's to stop people from communicating e2e encrypted over totally insecure channels using steganography techniques? You don't need a special app to do this, or maybe you just need a companion app that you type your message into and it gives you the thing you just paste into whatever messaging app / social media you use. The steganography makes it hard for the operator to determine that yo…

The effort required to do it

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EPP is a corrupt, authoritarian regime that will hopefully not last long. It is not a coincidence the union took a massive, noticeable turn for the worse in 2019 -- the von der Leyen presidencies have done immeasurable damage it will never recover from. They have also been complicit in crime and corruption from Bulgaria, Serbia and Hungary, for years, and that is even if you exclude the Pfizer disaster nobody was hel…

Well anything with people's in its name is basicaly authoritarian, just like the DPRK or PRC.

The EPP also gave us migrant quotas, chat control and punished Greece for its debt.

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