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Bonnie Tyler has died

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Re: Bonnie Tyler has died

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Post by toomuchtodo »

xnorswap wrote: post #43
krapp wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not how it works. If upvotes alone mattered, HN would quickly degenerate into Reddit. The bar is whether "good hackers" would find this interesting. Death notices of famous artists are the definition of off-topic: "most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic." If normies care…

I do think HN should have an obit: category and filter them out the main page. It's one thing to have obits for people who wouldn't be covered by regular news, but "75 year old celebrity dies" is not any kind of new phenomenon. It generates a decent amount of upvotes and discussion based on name recognition and nostalgia, but every thread is essentially the same, "Oh, that's sad, I liked their work, .".

Meta: More often than I should have, I have emailed HN and asked "Why can you not extend/build/etc" this? And, as expected, we'd get into a great email discussion about why that would provide a meaningful improvement over the existing experience. This is a forum of builders, makers, and hackers, to their unspoken point. The primitives provided are "good enough," Hacker News is feature complete. To build this on top of HN in a browser extension or mobile app is trivial, and so, I'd say "If you want this, build it and share with us."

Ask HN: Any good replacements for "Refined Hacker News?" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48845676 is an opportunity, for example. Show HN awaits for whatever you build.

Re: Bonnie Tyler has died

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Post by petcat »

japhyr wrote: post #46

Growing up in the 80s, I've known (and sung) this song all my life. But I just saw this flowchart for the first time today: https://jeannr.tumblr.com/post/165291081/i-made-a-flow-chart... I believe that's the original source, but it looks cut off. Here's a full version: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b1/82/dc/b182dcc291495c013c98...

Steinman was a genius. One of the greatest rock composers of all time and he picked his performers brilliantly.

Re: Bonnie Tyler has died

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Post by toomuchtodo »

nly wrote: post #31
myself248 wrote: post #23

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Featured towards the climax of Short Circuit 2, which was huge in my childhood. What a powerhouse piece of music!

I think of that movie every time I hear the song! That was one badass robot sequence. "Suuuuure. Kidnap the humans, DESTROY THE MACHINE."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LABMISLl7Y8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTdHPAY7rOE

Re: Bonnie Tyler has died

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Post by bluGill »

runako wrote: post #27
masfuerte wrote: post #25

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I'm old enough to remember Walkmans coming out in 1979, which was the start of the end of the boombox era. Approximately no-one was using 8-track at that point.

I'm not quite that old, but didn't people look down on cassettes due to their lower audio quality? Weren't most home systems (hi-fis) still vinyl or 8-track for a while longer?

They did. However vinyl was considered better than 8 track. Cassette was a lot more portable than 8 track, and so where portability mattered it won. Elsewhere vinyl was considered better than 8 track and so it won (a few years latter CDs came and won).

Those who really cared about sound quality had reel to reel tape, but that was very rare. Almost no albums were ever released on reel to reel. You typically bought the vinyl and copied it to your own reels thus ensuring there were no scratches.

Re: Bonnie Tyler has died

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Post by dreamcompiler »

petcat wrote: post #73
japhyr wrote: post #46

Growing up in the 80s, I've known (and sung) this song all my life. But I just saw this flowchart for the first time today: https://jeannr.tumblr.com/post/165291081/i-made-a-flow-chart... I believe that's the original source, but it looks cut off. Here's a full version: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b1/82/dc/b182dcc291495c013c98...

Steinman was a genius. One of the greatest rock composers of all time and he picked his performers brilliantly.

TIL Bonnie Tyler was the female Meat Loaf.

Re: Bonnie Tyler has died

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Post by mcmcmc »

budsniffer952 wrote: post #63
xnorswap wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do think HN should have an obit: category and filter them out the main page. It's one thing to have obits for people who wouldn't be covered by regular news, but "75 year old celebrity dies" is not any kind of new phenomenon. It generates a decent amount of upvotes and discussion based on name recognition and nostalgia, but every thread is essentially the same, "Oh, that's sad, I liked their work, .".

Nobody forced you to click on the article or jump into the comment section, did they?

It took the place of another more relevant story that could’ve been on the front page

Re: Bonnie Tyler has died

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Post by mikestew »

dreamcompiler wrote: post #76
petcat wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Steinman was a genius. One of the greatest rock composers of all time and he picked his performers brilliantly.

TIL Bonnie Tyler was the female Meat Loaf.

At the time it was pretty obvious, having just come off Meatloaf’s Bat Out of Hell being played on the radio ten times a day.

Re: Bonnie Tyler has died

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Post by krapp »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #64
krapp wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not how it works. If upvotes alone mattered, HN would quickly degenerate into Reddit. The bar is whether "good hackers" would find this interesting. Death notices of famous artists are the definition of off-topic: "most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic." If normies care…

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48614633 > Anything that gratifies intellectual curiosity is on topic for HN! - https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html That doesn't mean it has to gratify your curiosity or mine - no single article can do that for everyone. But it's clear that that's what makes the article on topic. > One other aspect: the best HN submissions are the ones that are most uncorrelated with…

>Mods can turn off flag capabilities per account, keep this in mind. You won't know if your flags are effective or not.

I'm well aware, but I still do it on principle.

Re: Bonnie Tyler has died

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Post by chasd00 »

IAmGraydon wrote: post #56
japhyr wrote: post #46

Growing up in the 80s, I've known (and sung) this song all my life. But I just saw this flowchart for the first time today: https://jeannr.tumblr.com/post/165291081/i-made-a-flow-chart... I believe that's the original source, but it looks cut off. Here's a full version: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b1/82/dc/b182dcc291495c013c98...

That's actually a really interesting visualization of a professionally structured verse.

Not sure why you were downvoted, it is super interesting. I know nothing of songwriting but it seems like that could be read by a singing performer in similarly to how sheet music is read by an instrument performer. In the graph, there's additional information than just the words that a singer would need to perform the song accurately.

/re-iterate i know almost nothing of music except what i like which i've been informed over and over is incorrect hah.

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