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The model is not interested in the conversation, it is just "serving" a conversation.
Which is very different from the engagement of SOTA text models.
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Star Trek computer voice model is something I have yet to encounter, and I've looked repeatedly :) It's not about a specific voice, it's the fact they managed to capture "I am a utility" perfectly in the voice. Our modern friends do not want to be thought of as a utility, but to engender trust and agency all of their own and that's a huge problem for me.
I just tell them to talk like Jarvis. I tried the "cold logic" prompt but it turned them into a bunch of assholes.
I guess when we tell models to use "cold logic" they don't interpret that purely definitionally, but moreso with what this statement usually implies, which is often a disagreement between two people, one trying to leverage supposed logic to disagree and denigrate the other party, oftentimes actually arguing out of emotion and not the logic they claim to use. This probably occurs enough to give model responses a mean tint. That's my theory on why this could occur at least.
This is fascinating to me. Whether that's due to my slight autism or massive nerdery, I don't want more realistic voice. I already switched to non-advanced voice in gpt, and I cannot imagine wanting the mmmhms, the yesses, the laughs, in my ai interaction. I want to ask a structured question and get a structured meaningful response. Informative and structured are really the KPIs. The umms and ahms of existing gpt adv…
100% agree, its also disturbing that they want to make seem like a human. I suspect most people would prefer it to behave like the computer in star trek. just be there, and be responsive in direct polite ways. dont try to be a friend, dont try to pretend its people. its not. its fucking code.
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Social people will be fine, I think this tech is far more important for lonely people who for any reason don't get to socialize much (if at all), this is especially common in older people. These people might not have any other alternatives.
> I think this tech is far more important for lonely people who for any reason don't get to socialize much (if at all), this is especially common in older people. Uhm, those lonely people need to get out and start talking. How is this going to help society? This is going to make it worse. Oh that kid is kinda quite and sad? Throw him an iPad. Oh that adult is kinda bored and wandering aimlessly? Throw him into a casi…
For some of these people even talking to a robot would likely be a huge improvement in quality of life, and that's just talking. If said robots could also help them out in real life, sort of like a personal assistant, that would be even better.
Like a lot of AI things, this seems both cool and kind of creeps me out. I've never used voice interfaces in the past (siri, the google one, whatever is on my tv) so I'm probably not the target market, but this does seem like an improvement. The part that creeps me out is, we're living in an era where we're more disconnected from each other than ever before. Do we really need to be replacing conversations?! The demon…
None of the things I'm talking to ChatGPT about are replacing human conversations. It's replacing having to type a question into Google on my phone. But you do bring up a good point with old people with no one to talk to. This technology would be a god send for them. And if you think otherwise I hope your next words are that you routinely visit nursing homes and talk with old people.
Here's a real story that's very much more likely story than your "godsend": https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/meta-ai-... I don't think giving old people AI psychosis is anything other than inhumane.
Like a lot of AI things, this seems both cool and kind of creeps me out. I've never used voice interfaces in the past (siri, the google one, whatever is on my tv) so I'm probably not the target market, but this does seem like an improvement. The part that creeps me out is, we're living in an era where we're more disconnected from each other than ever before. Do we really need to be replacing conversations?! The demon…
My most common use case for voice mode is: Kid. Talking to and asking about stuff that we see outside becomes something to do together. > I think we already have a societal problem with the way we treat the elderly The actual problem is that we keep up the wishful thinking regarding our collective capacity and interest to entertain physically and mentally frail people. Before old people stop deteriorating in ways tha…
I'm just going to go out on a limb and say if you think people deserve bad treatment because they stopped being "fun" you should probably look into your moral compass.
There doesn’t seem to be any indication whether this is available in the chat-got app nor is there any indication in the app that anything has changed. Anyone know how to actually try this?
In the voice settings, there were 2 options - Standard and Advanced, as well as a help link saying they were in the process of rolling out the newest model -- I think the new model is named Live (and is not Standard or Advanced). The help link explained it all.
So at least for me in the app there did seem to be a way to check.
I had preview access to this one for a few weeks. It's very good. I had one conversation that lasted a full hour while I was walking the dog, got some good brainstorming done against one of my projects. The best feature is that it can delegate questions out to GPT-5.5 in the background, so you're no longer restricted to a voice model that's several years behind the frontier. I did report a fun bug with it though: it…
How did you give it access to your projects? That’s something I never thought does work as the voice model has no access outside of its scope?
I had preview access to this one for a few weeks. It's very good. I had one conversation that lasted a full hour while I was walking the dog, got some good brainstorming done against one of my projects. The best feature is that it can delegate questions out to GPT-5.5 in the background, so you're no longer restricted to a voice model that's several years behind the frontier. I did report a fun bug with it though: it…
Can it in some way do some action based on the talk? For example, can it summarize the brainstorming into a text file, post it somewhere etc.?
Hoping to use this for natural conversation language learning. Previous iterations of the app kept correcting my words/grammar before it got to the model, causing issues with identifying mistakes in speech