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Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives

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Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives

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Post by usrbinbash »

jorisw wrote: post #15

Sentiment for/against GitHub aside... "Why X are doing Y" articles like these pretend that the premise of "X are doing Y" is true, conveniently skipping to the "Why" before proving that the premise is even accurate in any meaningful way. This is why I never buy headlines that start out with "Why". > developers are ditching Proceeds to list but a handful of remotely meaningful repos against the hundreds of thousands o…

> Proceeds to list but a handful of remotely meaningful repos

I'm pretty sure, shortly after the motorized vehicle was made commercialy available, there were only a "handful of remotely meaningful" people and companies who stopped using horses.

Do tell: How many horses are around on todays streets?

Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives

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Post by janeway »

submeta wrote: post #123

For those who moved away from GitHub: do you miss the social/discovery side of it? I mean things like comments on issues/PRs, stars, followers, finding existing repos, seeing which projects are popular, and getting drive-by contributions. Or does that matter less than I imagine once you self-host and mirror public repos back to GitHub/Codeberg?

I used to love browsing GitHub Explore Trending but in the last two years it is almost exclusively AI apps that are slight improvement on the previous trending page of AI apps.

GitHub explore could be way more interesting with a simple filter algorithm.

Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives

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Post by latexr »

jorisw wrote: post #15

Sentiment for/against GitHub aside... "Why X are doing Y" articles like these pretend that the premise of "X are doing Y" is true, conveniently skipping to the "Why" before proving that the premise is even accurate in any meaningful way. This is why I never buy headlines that start out with "Why". > developers are ditching Proceeds to list but a handful of remotely meaningful repos against the hundreds of thousands o…

A better alternative might be along the lines of “why developers ditch GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives”. That way it doesn’t commit to a trend or exaggerate the situation in your mind, instead making it clear it’s a report on “those X who do Y do it for these reasons”.

Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives

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Post by pbiggar »

My_Name wrote: post #82

As a developer who ditched Github and decided to self-host, there is only one reason. It's not technical difficulties, politics, nor AI. It's Microsoft. Like Apple, Facebook etc, I have a deep loathing for Microsoft and I want to remove as much of it from my life as I am able. I now run Git on a pi using Gitea and Forgejo. I can now upload files of a size unheard of in GitHub, Claude can make a PR by itself that I ca…

Microsoft's human rights stain will take decades to wear off (just like Meta, Google, and Amazon).

Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives

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Post by embedding-shape »

p-e-w wrote: post #120
embedding-shape wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're talking about the article featured on HN just day(s) ago, that was about a funding effort to get more researchers to move to France from the US, while they interviewed one specific individual. I think maybe you skipped the contents of that article (as it was in French) and instead just read the HN comments which misunderstood the article :)

> If you're talking about the article featured on HN just day(s) ago I’m not.

Engaging :)

Are you perhaps talking about "Top researchers leave USA for the Netherlands" then that was also on the HN frontpage just days ago?

There been so many articles, surveys and papers about how scientists and researchers are leaving the US for the last 1-2 years, that it's hard to keep track. Still, I'm curious to understand what you actually read.

Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives

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Post by j45 »

Github for open source was always my favourite part of it.

Github for private repos has long had security issues, every time a serious issue announced it makes me wonder how long it's quietly existed and been exploited, and how many other holes are currently exploited that aren't well known.

Before github, people hosted their own repos all the time. Learning about alternatives, even if they aren't for you in all cases, is still worth it.

Has anyone had any issues with codeberg or other alternatives?

Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives

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Post by woodruffw »

usrbinbash wrote: post #131
jorisw wrote: post #15

Sentiment for/against GitHub aside... "Why X are doing Y" articles like these pretend that the premise of "X are doing Y" is true, conveniently skipping to the "Why" before proving that the premise is even accurate in any meaningful way. This is why I never buy headlines that start out with "Why". > developers are ditching Proceeds to list but a handful of remotely meaningful repos against the hundreds of thousands o…

> Proceeds to list but a handful of remotely meaningful repos I'm pretty sure, shortly after the motorized vehicle was made commercialy available, there were only a "handful of remotely meaningful" people and companies who stopped using horses. Do tell: How many horses are around on todays streets?

This is not an effective argument, given that these smaller services are uniformly retrograde in functionality.

Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives

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Post by sunaookami »

tovej wrote: post #102
intunderflow wrote: post #97

FYI that Codeberg is currently holding a vote to broadly ban projects written mostly using AI, so its not a neutral space for hosting your projects like GitHub: https://codeberg.org/Codeberg/org/pulls/1253 https://tldr.nettime.org/@tante/116880003584050912

Well, that's a good thing. Being "neutral" _is_ taking a side. It means you're taking an amoral stance even in big questions. Every organization has a stance. We're just become used to companies that take a stance of "as long as we get paid".

No, being "neutral" is not "taking a side", that's the definition of the word. If you pre-moderate you open a whole can of worms. What will they ban next? This makes me not want to use Codeberg ever because it's not plannable.
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