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Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives

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Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives

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Post by conartist6 »

esperent wrote: post #106
conartist6 wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The early adopters are leaving. These are the people that will blaze a trail that others follow.

Which early adopters exactly? The most prominent example they gave is ghostty which has existed for just a couple of years, notwithstanding the fact that the owner published a spiel about how he's personally been using it for longer.

An early adopter is someone who is first in line to try something new, usually because they're willing to build part of the new thing with their own hands. Just look at what projects are on any of the third-party forges, those are the early adopters of post-github tech.

I would also be one of them, but I'm not actually off Github yet. That's because I haven't quiite finished building the thing I'm going to move to.

Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives

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Post by nottorp »

ezoe wrote: post #7

I guess three nines availability is important.

Lately, 9 out of 10 times i click on a github link to access the repo for $random_project_hosted_on_github I get a page saying that I've been rate limited. Even if it's my first click on a github link for the week.

I guess THAT page has the three nines availability.

Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives

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Post by submeta »

For those who moved away from GitHub: do you miss the social/discovery side of it?

I mean things like comments on issues/PRs, stars, followers, finding existing repos, seeing which projects are popular, and getting drive-by contributions.

Or does that matter less than I imagine once you self-host and mirror public repos back to GitHub/Codeberg?

Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives

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Post by jjgreen »

DonHopkins wrote: post #54
etdznots wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With enough precision in the time metric there are infinitely many nines!

Somewhere in 3.14159...% uptime there are as many nines as you like!

... assuming time is infinitely divisible. (Not a physicist, is that open?)

Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives

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Post by pferde »

sneak wrote: post #5

Did we all forget that GitHub’s military-industrial complex owners over at Microsoft made sure to send the “business as usual” signal to the USG when they refused to stop helping ICE violate human rights en masse? This was during the kidnap-and-rape-kids-in-cages days and before they started a general policy of kidnapping and/or summarily executing law-abiding citizens in the street. There are more reasons now to dis…

I mean, I poisoned and then deleted my GH account the day Microsoft acquisition was confirmed, because it was obvious where it's heading.

Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives

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Post by sverhagen »

stymaar wrote: post #79
jorisw wrote: post #15

Sentiment for/against GitHub aside... "Why X are doing Y" articles like these pretend that the premise of "X are doing Y" is true, conveniently skipping to the "Why" before proving that the premise is even accurate in any meaningful way. This is why I never buy headlines that start out with "Why". > developers are ditching Proceeds to list but a handful of remotely meaningful repos against the hundreds of thousands o…

> Proceeds to list but a handful of remotely meaningful repos against the hundreds of thousands on there The trend is what's interesting here. Github has never been threatened by anyone, because their service was too good to bother for everyone but the most ideologically motivated. Now their service has become so bad there's a github joke at work every time something is down or slower than it should. Reputation is a…

Yeah, like how developers were en-masse ditching GitHub to go to GitLab when Microsoft acquired GitHub.

Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives

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Post by kgeist »

ncphillips wrote: post #91
kgeist wrote: post #51

We've been self-hosting GitLab for about a year now, and I don't remember it ever going down or being unavailable. We self-host almost everything else too (except for online meetings), and it's all been pretty stable as well. Some of the tools we self-host do go down occasionally, but it's usually just a matter of restarting the VM or adding more storage.

Do you self host chat?

Yes, Rocket.Chat

Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives

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Post by stanac »

jjgreen wrote: post #119
stanac wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand your question. If I was working for GH would I be selfhosting forgejo? edit: If you think I sound like an LLM, I guess that is what happens when most of your interactions in English language are with LLMs.

Given the state of it, you might well ...

I missed the opportunity to add "you are absolutely right".

Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives

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Post by kgeist »

tovej wrote: post #105
kgeist wrote: post #51

We've been self-hosting GitLab for about a year now, and I don't remember it ever going down or being unavailable. We self-host almost everything else too (except for online meetings), and it's all been pretty stable as well. Some of the tools we self-host do go down occasionally, but it's usually just a matter of restarting the VM or adding more storage.

Do you serve the instance on the public internet or on a VPN? I've been thinking about self-hosting myself, but for my purposes (open source), I'm worries about scrapers and other sources of DOS-like traffic.

VPN, accessible only from inside the corporate network

Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives

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Post by dncornholio »

qweqwe14 wrote: post #73

You'd be surprised how easy it is to self-host GitLab with Docker Compose, GitLab has an official "Omnibus" Docker image. No need to handicap yourself with Gitea/Forgejo/whatever, you can just use an industry-standard platform without much effort. Hardware requirements are nowhere close to high either.

It's also easy without Docker. apt install gitlab-ee
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