EU Parliament greenlights Chat Control 1.0

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Post by rapnie » Thu, Jul 09, 2026, 11:03 AM UTC

EU Parliament greenlights Chat Control 1.0
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Re: EU Parliament greenlights Chat Control 1.0

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Post by miroljub » Thu, Jul 09, 2026, 11:17 AM UTC

And so, step by step, in the name of child protection and similar excuses, we lose liberties and rights one by one.

Welcome to the Brave New 1984 We World. Big Brother loves us.

We are living through the time best described by Zamyatin, Orwell, and Huxley.

Re: EU Parliament greenlights Chat Control 1.0

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Post by Otek » Thu, Jul 09, 2026, 11:20 AM UTC

miroljub wrote: post #2

And so, step by step, in the name of child protection and similar excuses, we lose liberties and rights one by one. Welcome to the Brave New 1984 We World. Big Brother loves us. We are living through the time best described by Zamyatin, Orwell, and Huxley.

Slippery slope is fine and all but do you have any constructive argument?

Re: EU Parliament greenlights Chat Control 1.0

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Post by petcat » Thu, Jul 09, 2026, 11:21 AM UTC

I don't want to hear about the EU's "strong digital privacy" laws and protections ever again.

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Post by netsharc » Thu, Jul 09, 2026, 11:21 AM UTC

miroljub wrote: post #2

And so, step by step, in the name of child protection and similar excuses, we lose liberties and rights one by one. Welcome to the Brave New 1984 We World. Big Brother loves us. We are living through the time best described by Zamyatin, Orwell, and Huxley.

Man, the EU is supposed to be the beacon of liberal democracy (after the light of Reagan's shining city on the hill is now truly extinguishing), but with shit like this, it's really making enemies left and right (metaphorically and spectrally).

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Post by budududuroiu » Thu, Jul 09, 2026, 11:22 AM UTC

Roberta Metsola's actions this week jeopardise the legitimacy of the EU project as a whole.

It's clear that member countries use the EU as a blame-laundering mechanism to pass domestically unpopular laws, but the forcing of this vote under the urgency procedure that requires absolute majority to reject, on the last EP session before summer break is so blatant that it might awaken people that might've overlooked the structural failures of the EU and finally radicalise them

EDIT: bad wording, it's not that the urgency procedure causes the voting to require absolute majority, it's that an absolute majority second-reading is forced through an emergency procedure which is designed for first readings of legislation that's the implied meaning above

Re: EU Parliament greenlights Chat Control 1.0

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Post by ywvcbk » Thu, Jul 09, 2026, 11:23 AM UTC

Otek wrote: post #3

miroljub wrote: post #2

And so, step by step, in the name of child protection and similar excuses, we lose liberties and rights one by one. Welcome to the Brave New 1984 We World. Big Brother loves us. We are living through the time best described by Zamyatin, Orwell, and Huxley.

Slippery slope is fine and all but do you have any constructive argument?

Slippery slope is not a "fallacy" by default. It can be occasionally but its a perfectly reasonably argument in plenty of cases.

Re: EU Parliament greenlights Chat Control 1.0

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Post by netbioserror » Thu, Jul 09, 2026, 11:23 AM UTC

Otek wrote: post #3

miroljub wrote: post #2

And so, step by step, in the name of child protection and similar excuses, we lose liberties and rights one by one. Welcome to the Brave New 1984 We World. Big Brother loves us. We are living through the time best described by Zamyatin, Orwell, and Huxley.

Slippery slope is fine and all but do you have any constructive argument?

What "constructive" argument is anyone supposed to give about authorities having warrantless access to all private conversations?

Re: EU Parliament greenlights Chat Control 1.0

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Post by largbae » Thu, Jul 09, 2026, 11:30 AM UTC

This article seems to make good points about how useless and invasive Chat Control 1.0 is, but then posits Chat Control 2.0 as the answer. Is the latter not also terrible for privacy, demanding backdoors in all encrypted chat tech?

Re: EU Parliament greenlights Chat Control 1.0

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Post by ekjhgkejhgk » Thu, Jul 09, 2026, 11:32 AM UTC

Otek wrote: post #3

miroljub wrote: post #2

And so, step by step, in the name of child protection and similar excuses, we lose liberties and rights one by one. Welcome to the Brave New 1984 We World. Big Brother loves us. We are living through the time best described by Zamyatin, Orwell, and Huxley.

Slippery slope is fine and all but do you have any constructive argument?

"Slippery slope" does not by itself invalidate an argument, because slippery slopes do exist.