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Re: Cloudflare Drop

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Post by josu »

aweb wrote: post #212
karlkloss wrote: post #186

Does nobody read the fineprint? By submitting, posting, or publishing your content, suggestions, enhancement requests, recommendations, feedback, information, data, or comments (“Content”) to any Website or Online Service, you are granting Cloudflare a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free right and license (with the right to sublicense) to use, incorporate, exploit, display, perform, reprodu…

I'm always really doubtful this is applicable in the end, especially in the EU. You can't give up all your copyright like this

It's a spectrum. I don't think that they will be able to sell t-shirts using a drawing you've uploaded. But it will probably allow them to defend themselves a bit better if they get sued for selling the data for LLM training.

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Post by socketcluster »

This is neat. I've been dreaming of something like this to host frontends connected to my backend platform https://saasufy.com - I can get Claude Code to create a data-driven app entirely inside an index.html file on my computer's file system, then, because it's built with WebSockets, it doesn't have CORS limitations so I can open it directly from the file system by double-clicking it (served via file:// protocol) then, when I'm happy, I can drag that file and drop it on Cloudflare Drop and then it's deployed online. No text editor/IDE, no server needed in the entire process.

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Post by layer8 »

VimEscapeArtist wrote: post #251

Cloudflare gives me mixed feelings. The services are good and well priced. What bothers me is that they've become infrastructure nobody opted into - you don't have an account, you just pass through their network on the way to a large share of what you visit. They terminate TLS, so it's plaintext on their side.

It’s funny the EU hasn’t designated Cloudflare as a Gatekeeper yet.

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Post by mrngld »

VimEscapeArtist wrote: post #251

Cloudflare gives me mixed feelings. The services are good and well priced. What bothers me is that they've become infrastructure nobody opted into - you don't have an account, you just pass through their network on the way to a large share of what you visit. They terminate TLS, so it's plaintext on their side.

The people who own the content you decide to visit opted into it though, and they're the ones paying for it, right? No one accidentally sets up a CDN. I'm struggling to imagine workable economics where we have the rich services that we have today on the web but individual users get to dictate to sites they visit what their tech stack needs to be in real time. Imagine visiting your banks website and they're using Cloudflare, and you decide nope, I want the data delivered by CloudFront. Then the next person 20ms after you decides they don't like either of those, they really want the world to burn so they demand Azure.

That at least would bring back local bank branches at least. And movie rentals by mail.

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Post by blueflow »

karlkloss wrote: post #186

Does nobody read the fineprint? By submitting, posting, or publishing your content, suggestions, enhancement requests, recommendations, feedback, information, data, or comments (“Content”) to any Website or Online Service, you are granting Cloudflare a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free right and license (with the right to sublicense) to use, incorporate, exploit, display, perform, reprodu…

> your content

Wouldn't it be fun to upload content of a big music label or smth like that?

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Post by AlienRobot »

dghlsakjg wrote: post #161
rickcarlino wrote: post #45

Desktop operating systems should be able to run zipped web apps the way Electron apps run today. It ought to just be part of the OS.

Unzip it. Double click the html file. The OS will run the web app using a browser that is just part of the OS.

CORS issues due to trying to a .json via file://.

CORS issues on a tainted canvas if you try to render an image from a file:// src.

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Post by whilenot-dev »

jeffparsons wrote: post #258
tremon wrote: post #254

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To me this looks like legal preparation for selling their users' datasets for AI training purposes.

Basically the same phrasing was widespread before LLMs were invented. So I don't think it's specifically motivated by that.

Hoarding massive amounts of data for the success of machine learning algorithms was a thing long before LLMs were a thing too. Remember the neural networks hype that kicked off around 2010? LLMs didn't even challenge the prevalent paradigms of deep learning: "Most of the value of deep learning is where you can get a lot of data" or "Data is the new oil".

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Post by enoint »

esjeon wrote: post #152
x-complexity wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Now tell me what is cool Not immediately being a copyright bootlicker. The fact that you went straight to "BuT pIrAtEs" already shows who you actually care: Corpos, not people.

A dirty secret is that piracy is being abused by criminal organizations[1]. When people unknowingly access such sites to see contents for free, it generate ad revenue for those organizations, which can fund other crimes. [1]: https://www.interpol.int/en/Crimes/Illicit-goods/Projects/Pr...

Are you talking about:

> The suspects subscribed to 40 Korean cable TV service accounts, re-broadcasting content to Indonesia and offering video-on-demand (VOD) services through customized TV boxes, applications, and web browsers.

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