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What does a 13-year-old see on Snapchat in a normal week?

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Re: What does a 13-year-old see on Snapchat in a normal week?

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So, we are giving up privacy in all our electronic communications because a bunch of companies can’t stop running algorithms to drive up engagement? From the article above, it seems Snapchat messaging would work just fine if kids had to touch phones to exchange contacts. Versus putting everybody in 24x7 AI surveillance, the lesser bad here is to forbid those algorithms, even if that bankrupts the platforms.

Re: What does a 13-year-old see on Snapchat in a normal week?

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post #11

So, we are giving up privacy in all our electronic communications because a bunch of companies can’t stop running algorithms to drive up engagement? From the article above, it seems Snapchat messaging would work just fine if kids had to touch phones to exchange contacts. Versus putting everybody in 24x7 AI surveillance, the lesser bad here is to forbid those algorithms, even if that bankrupts the platforms.

But think of those poor megacorps! How will they ever turn a profit without their precious algorithms? Invading every user‘s privacy is only morally right! What else could they, or governments, possibly do? Make line not go up? I shudder to think!

Re: What does a 13-year-old see on Snapchat in a normal week?

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post #12

When a minor gets online it is only a matter of when not if before they get questions about their underwear.

You should read the article

Surely that falls under the 25% sexually suggestive messages in the article

Re: What does a 13-year-old see on Snapchat in a normal week?

#15
it really is wild.

i’ve said it before and i’ll say it again.

the companies will have no one but themselves to blame when they’re regulated in and out.

if the companies don’t care at all about people and society to take actual material concrete steps to help, then we don’t need to care about them.

if they don’t care about me and mine, then i don’t care about them.

if a company cares about profits at any cost and has no regard for people, regulate them right out of business. i’m ok with that, they don’t care about me, have no obligation towards them.

Re: What does a 13-year-old see on Snapchat in a normal week?

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post #11

So, we are giving up privacy in all our electronic communications because a bunch of companies can’t stop running algorithms to drive up engagement? From the article above, it seems Snapchat messaging would work just fine if kids had to touch phones to exchange contacts. Versus putting everybody in 24x7 AI surveillance, the lesser bad here is to forbid those algorithms, even if that bankrupts the platforms.

large companies would break democracy if it interfered with income

they used to send 9 year olds into the mines

Re: What does a 13-year-old see on Snapchat in a normal week?

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post #11

So, we are giving up privacy in all our electronic communications because a bunch of companies can’t stop running algorithms to drive up engagement? From the article above, it seems Snapchat messaging would work just fine if kids had to touch phones to exchange contacts. Versus putting everybody in 24x7 AI surveillance, the lesser bad here is to forbid those algorithms, even if that bankrupts the platforms.

I'm not sure it's that straightforward. What the article shows is that even a legal, commercial, and publicly known platform serves this content. What it doesn't show is all the other contexts kids may encounter it.

Re: What does a 13-year-old see on Snapchat in a normal week?

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Typically I’m incredibly cynical about “won’t somebody please think of the children” type stuff - but I’ve got to admit, this does seem like a lot more than I expected. And while a certain kind of kid, say, myself, would probably be just fine rolling his eyes and blocking/reporting and not have it be a bit thing… I really was an especially certain kind of kid, and not everybody works that way.

I wonder what I would do as a parent - if my kid relied on it to stay in touch with his friends. Sit him down and talk to him about it? Go through stuff together with him, like actually flip through the videos and chat about them? I don’t know it’s hard to imagine, I’d like to believe I could just teach them the proper attitude / framing to take when approaching this kind of content, served by this kind of app, but what would I do if I felt like I was failing at that?

What if my kid actively resisted my efforts? Talk to his friend’s parents maybe and see about setting up an alternative? Kids always find a way to get around boundaries though.

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