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Re: GPT‑Live

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Post by nougati »

unknownfuture wrote: post #412
appreciatorBus wrote: post #411

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nah. Workers in 2026, even non-tech workers have an easier life than workers alive at any other point in human history. Yes ofc there are problems - collectivist land use laws that ban construction near homeowners continue to drive housing costs higher for example. But if you asked any worker today if they would have preferred to be alive 40 or 400 years ago I would be shocked if any said yes.

So I'm clear: as long as our jobs don't devolve to 100 hours a week in a sweat shop or tilling the earth for the lord of our fiefdom, we should just sit back and be happy? Is that what I should take away from your comment?

I don't have a strong opinion either way but it seems unlikely that this was the takeaway

Re: GPT‑Live

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Post by liquicity »

Fraterkes wrote: post #134
athyuttamre wrote: post #28

(Atty from OpenAI here) GPT-Live-1 is the first version of a new generation of models, and we believe the full-duplex architecture + delegation enables entirely new ways of human-AI interaction. Would love to hear your feedback!

Hey! Bit of an unusual question maybe: if this stuff further exarcerbates the loneliness epidemic and atomization of society, will you be able to live with yourself you think? If you hear about teenagers only spending time with your chatbot in 5 years, will you feel some amount of personal responsibility or not? Always curious to hear you guys' perspective on that kind of stuff!

Was this directed at the voice technology in the article, or at AI in general - as they are two very different conversations?

If you're talking about ChatGPT in general (as I guess you are) I think the Jury's still out on whether this will have a net positive or negative on society.

Right now, it's leaning towards negative, but there are optimistic futures to be had at the same time.

As someone who likes to think that they would turn down a lot of tech jobs due to moral dilemmas - for me, currently working on AI wouldn't be one.

For me at-least it's a tool to learn quicker, and reduce friction on projects I otherwise may not have dived into. As with all new technology, we're still in this grace period / lack the bigger picture we now have on other, now known to be destructive technologies.

Re: GPT‑Live

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Post by alexgyurov »

varenc wrote: post #396
alexgyurov wrote: post #335

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Using gpt-realtime-2 you can achieve very similar results with low latency streaming which gives you this feeling of an assistant that is there in the room with you. I made a tweak to so you can try out the gpt-realtime-2 model with tooling that gives you this: https://sippet.ai/?enabler=hn

Kept trying to use the demo, but despite giving it microphone permissions and seeing that the microphone was in use, couldn't get the demo to 'hear' me at all.

Hi varenc, thanks for trying it out, could you share what browser you were using?

Re: GPT‑Live

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Post by yreg »

nougati wrote: post #480
dannyw wrote: post #423

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People can enjoy different things, people can be neurodiverse, different strokes for different things, etc.

True, and they can recommend things too, we're all in agreement

The unprompted recommendation is condescending and carries a holier than you attitude.

Re: GPT‑Live

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Post by nico1207 »

rcarrol6 wrote: post #151

I'm crying, that guy who tries to get it to count to 100 may actually have a chance

I just told it to count from 1 to 100, and it actually correctly counted and didn't leave out any number. I'm impressed

Re: GPT‑Live

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

unknownfuture wrote: post #394
supern0va wrote: post #365

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Every time something along these lines is posted, comments like this show up. The thing I don't get is...no one would say this about listening to a podcast or audiobook on a walk. I'm not sure why people choose to demonize this specific use of time during walks.

It's coming from a place of objecting to burnout/overwork culture. Recently I witnessed a CTO mention in a public channel that with Claude remote control people can now work while getting a coffee or other breaks during the day. Tech is actively moving in a direction of destroying all the gains from the labour movement in service of enriching capital out of a combination of FOMO or fear of being replaced. So yeah, wh…

It’s funny. I was looking at my GH activity graph. It’s been pretty solid green, for years. I stay busy.

But since I’ve been using an LLM, it’s been bright green.

I always check in code manually. I don’t let the LLM do it.

Re: GPT‑Live

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Post by simongray »

OrangeMusic wrote: post #479

The ad with the grandmas is cute and funny, but from the first 20 seconds you can see that the voice annoyingly interrupts people while they are talking. It's almost as if it tries to reply too fast - faster than a real person would, and the results is that it replies while you're still talking. Oh and there was also a small fail in the live translate demo: the grandma says "tell him that..." which the bot translates…

They don't act the way humans would.

It's normal to start a sentence after the other person in the conversation pauses, especially if you're eager to say something (like the chat agent is), but a real human is socially aware and would in most cases immediately cease talking if the other person starts another sentence at the same time. Humans do this so much in their conversations that the other person doesn't really register the interruption at all.

Re: GPT‑Live

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Post by jstummbillig »

overgard wrote: post #298

Like a lot of AI things, this seems both cool and kind of creeps me out. I've never used voice interfaces in the past (siri, the google one, whatever is on my tv) so I'm probably not the target market, but this does seem like an improvement. The part that creeps me out is, we're living in an era where we're more disconnected from each other than ever before. Do we really need to be replacing conversations?! The demon…

My most common use case for voice mode is: Kid. Talking to and asking about stuff that we see outside becomes something to do together.

> I think we already have a societal problem with the way we treat the elderly

The actual problem is that we keep up the wishful thinking regarding our collective capacity and interest to entertain physically and mentally frail people. Before old people stop deteriorating in ways that make them unfun to interact with (I have high hopes we will be getting there in the next 20 years or so) this is not going to happen. Just like we are not going to save the environment by telling people to pay more for less and have less.

It's not a societal solution and I am increasingly irritated by people who pretend otherwise. It is causing so much harm under the appealing guise of humanity. It's quite the opposite and just people unwilling to deal with reality in a constructive way.

Re: GPT‑Live

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Post by etdznots »

sauwan wrote: post #203
jjulius wrote: post #150

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I highly recommend simply enjoying the walk.

I think you're missing the counterfactual. I now have two choices: 1) sit behind my desk and work, or 2) walk and talk something out. Before this model, the voice models were pretty dumb and annoying to work with. We'll see if this changes that.

3) walk and think
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