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Re: Cloudflare Drop

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Post by yread »

thelibrarian wrote: post #193
karlkloss wrote: post #186

Does nobody read the fineprint? By submitting, posting, or publishing your content, suggestions, enhancement requests, recommendations, feedback, information, data, or comments (“Content”) to any Website or Online Service, you are granting Cloudflare a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free right and license (with the right to sublicense) to use, incorporate, exploit, display, perform, reprodu…

If you don’t give them a license to display the works you give them to display, how can they legally display it?

With the right to sublicense. They can literally sell your stuff

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Post by dirkc »

Cloudflare seems to be an example of a company massively upping their output in the last year or so. And a lot of it seems AI driven.

I'm definitely keeping an eye on them to see if it works out for them. And if I will need to start routing around them to sleep easily at night.

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Post by stanleychink »

karlkloss wrote: post #186

Does nobody read the fineprint? By submitting, posting, or publishing your content, suggestions, enhancement requests, recommendations, feedback, information, data, or comments (“Content”) to any Website or Online Service, you are granting Cloudflare a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free right and license (with the right to sublicense) to use, incorporate, exploit, display, perform, reprodu…

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Post by camillomiller »

jonluca wrote: post #42

Wow the people in this thread are a huge bummer. This is much cooler and I doubt this is a real safety issue. You can already sign up for a free cloudflare account and deploy it for free, on your own, on a free workers.dev domain. The friction removal here isn't going to meaningfully change the security / amount of malicious content.

Oh poor you, bummed by people WHO ACTUALLY care about the web.

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Post by camillomiller »

arcatech wrote: post #104
jonluca wrote: post #42

Wow the people in this thread are a huge bummer. This is much cooler and I doubt this is a real safety issue. You can already sign up for a free cloudflare account and deploy it for free, on your own, on a free workers.dev domain. The friction removal here isn't going to meaningfully change the security / amount of malicious content.

When you see a group of people being critical, you can either see it as a “bummer”, or you can see it as people critically thinking about a thing. Is it really more useful to have everyone expressing how much they like something instead of identifying problems? Is seeing people talking about the things they don’t like something that makes you unhappy? Why?

This is what the influencer propaganda machine on social media has done to people's view of critical thinking.

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Post by camillomiller »

puchatek wrote: post #178
Nifty3929 wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is that everything is negative, all the time. Nothing good is allowed to be acknowledged. Everything someone or some company does must not be acknowledged to have any redeeming value- it’s all just negative Which is sad, because so much amazing stuff is happening on the world right now, and seems to be only accelerating. For everybody.

Amazing stuff? You mean technical stuff right? Because politically, demographically and climate wise we're headed for disaster or at least dystopia. I wished I could find all the science and technology as uplifting as my friends do.

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Post by itzjacki »

esjeon wrote: post #121
jonluca wrote: post #42

Wow the people in this thread are a huge bummer. This is much cooler and I doubt this is a real safety issue. You can already sign up for a free cloudflare account and deploy it for free, on your own, on a free workers.dev domain. The friction removal here isn't going to meaningfully change the security / amount of malicious content.

Corporations acting as if naive is a bit of problem in reality. For one thing, CF is probably the largest entity serving pirated content internationally while hiding the identities of actual perpetrators for privacy . Same here: CF is basically giving malicious actors an ability to ship contents/data publicly while laundering the legal responsibility of those actors. Now tell me what is cool

> CF is probably the largest entity serving pirated content internationally while hiding the identities of actual perpetrators for privacy.

I'm already on board, you don't need to sell it to me!

Re: Cloudflare Drop

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Post by jampekka »

aweb wrote: post #212
karlkloss wrote: post #186

Does nobody read the fineprint? By submitting, posting, or publishing your content, suggestions, enhancement requests, recommendations, feedback, information, data, or comments (“Content”) to any Website or Online Service, you are granting Cloudflare a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free right and license (with the right to sublicense) to use, incorporate, exploit, display, perform, reprodu…

I'm always really doubtful this is applicable in the end, especially in the EU. You can't give up all your copyright like this

Maybe, but you may not afford to find out.

Re: Cloudflare Drop

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Post by latexr »

lenkite wrote: post #218
gmac wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have plenty of ability to read, but I never read these T&Cs because they’re usually dozens of pages long and life’s too short (or, if you prefer, the cost/benefit doesn’t support it). For consumers in Europe, at least, it’s usually safe to assume that anything too shitty is unenforceable, which helps.

A good idea for a Firefox extension. Something that parses T&C's and pops up a DANGER warning on a page.

https://tosdr.org/en
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