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Re: Cloudflare Drop

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Post by simonjgreen »

thelibrarian wrote: post #193
karlkloss wrote: post #186

Does nobody read the fineprint? By submitting, posting, or publishing your content, suggestions, enhancement requests, recommendations, feedback, information, data, or comments (“Content”) to any Website or Online Service, you are granting Cloudflare a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free right and license (with the right to sublicense) to use, incorporate, exploit, display, perform, reprodu…

If you don’t give them a license to display the works you give them to display, how can they legally display it?

Perpetual and irrevocable? Derivative works?

Re: Cloudflare Drop

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Post by willtemperley »

stackghost wrote: post #153
gonzalohm wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about centralizing the internet like Cloudfare is doing? Once corporate greed starts creeping we will find ourselves on the verge of pay per visit a website

You mean centralizing the web? Doesn't bother me. Most of the web is a dumpster fire of AI slop anyway. There's more to the Internet than the world wide web, though. NNTP and IRC communities remain vibrant, if diminished in size

Are you aware of any projects to replace the current web implementation?

I've noticed the current version is largely accessed by Chrome which appears to be a trojan.

Re: Cloudflare Drop

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Post by nvme0n1p1 »

sevenzero wrote: post #187
karlkloss wrote: post #186

Does nobody read the fineprint? By submitting, posting, or publishing your content, suggestions, enhancement requests, recommendations, feedback, information, data, or comments (“Content”) to any Website or Online Service, you are granting Cloudflare a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free right and license (with the right to sublicense) to use, incorporate, exploit, display, perform, reprodu…

People are losing the ability to read. Lots of high schoolers are incapable of reading properly already. Attention spans shrink. We got some fun times ahead of us. We need these legal texts as short form TikTok content I am afraid.

Here's Cloudflare's T&C in comic form, for those with short attention spans.

https://nedroidcomics.tumblr.com/post/41879001445/the-intern...

Re: Cloudflare Drop

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Post by bigfudge »

gmac wrote: post #200
sevenzero wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People are losing the ability to read. Lots of high schoolers are incapable of reading properly already. Attention spans shrink. We got some fun times ahead of us. We need these legal texts as short form TikTok content I am afraid.

I have plenty of ability to read, but I never read these T&Cs because they’re usually dozens of pages long and life’s too short (or, if you prefer, the cost/benefit doesn’t support it). For consumers in Europe, at least, it’s usually safe to assume that anything too shitty is unenforceable, which helps.

Being “unenforceable” doesn’t stop them making your life a misery in the process, ruining your credit rating etc.

Re: Cloudflare Drop

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Post by croes »

jonluca wrote: post #42

Wow the people in this thread are a huge bummer. This is much cooler and I doubt this is a real safety issue. You can already sign up for a free cloudflare account and deploy it for free, on your own, on a free workers.dev domain. The friction removal here isn't going to meaningfully change the security / amount of malicious content.

But why need they so much license rights?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48841559

Re: Cloudflare Drop

#207

Post by mohsen1 »

This is perfect for my Chrome Extension for recording sessions and capturing screenshots, audio narration and videos. The output is a zip file with everything so if user wants to share they can use this

https://github.com/mohsen1/session-recorder-chrome-extension

I built above chrome extension because anything in this area has been trying to monetize the solution. I wanted a free and open source version of this to exist.

Re: Cloudflare Drop

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Post by PurpleRamen »

tritiy wrote: post #199
thelibrarian wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you don’t give them a license to display the works you give them to display, how can they legally display it?

It states more than just display: 'to use, incorporate, exploit, display, perform, reproduce, distribute, and prepare derivative works'

Can this be a necessary legal framing for technical purposes, to allow converting of pictures to different resolutions, or adapt the content to mobile views, and such things?

Re: Cloudflare Drop

#209

Post by stackghost »

willtemperley wrote: post #202
stackghost wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean centralizing the web? Doesn't bother me. Most of the web is a dumpster fire of AI slop anyway. There's more to the Internet than the world wide web, though. NNTP and IRC communities remain vibrant, if diminished in size

Are you aware of any projects to replace the current web implementation? I've noticed the current version is largely accessed by Chrome which appears to be a trojan.

Other than gopher/Gemini, not really, no
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