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Spider venom kills varroa mites without harming honeybees

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Re: Spider venom kills varroa mites without harming honeybees

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This assumes the mites are what kills the bees. What is that asssumption is flawed?

Nah, it cannot happen that Big Agro's poisons are to fault...

Pesticides are bad for bees, but Varroa is too. Until Varroa arrived in Australia the bees there didn't suffer from colony collapse, despite high pesticide use.

Re: Spider venom kills varroa mites without harming honeybees

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. The mites are not what is killing the bees. And, by the way - natural pathogens exist in just about any population. These very, very rarely led to extinction. There is a media trend to claim the mites are at fault. This reminds me of prior fault yielding e. g. "mad cow disease" - and then the media also stopped doing any further investigation at that point. It's as if they have break points where you can not go p…

Lotta unsubstantiated claims you're making there.

The negative government prior is unusually attractive.

Re: Spider venom kills varroa mites without harming honeybees

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So what's it going to do to the honey? Will we have spider venom laced honey?

As article suggest - it is fully biodegradable. I suppose venom has some short half-life. And since peptide is isolated, not full chain toxin, it should be harmless to humans.

Re: Spider venom kills varroa mites without harming honeybees

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Honeybees are not native to North America.

It is great and currently necessary we use them the way we do. It makes one wonder in the age of AI and evolving farm practices, can we start finding ways to cultivate already-climate-adapted native bees to do the work? Can we leverage adaptations for specific crops?

I get it that honeybees work great at pollinating monoculture fields, etc., but that does not change the fact we are perpetuating a square peg in round hole problem and pushing it very very far right now, at greater and greater cost, all while climate change is fighting us.

Re: Spider venom kills varroa mites without harming honeybees

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Honeybees are not native to North America. It is great and currently necessary we use them the way we do. It makes one wonder in the age of AI and evolving farm practices, can we start finding ways to cultivate already-climate-adapted native bees to do the work? Can we leverage adaptations for specific crops? I get it that honeybees work great at pollinating monoculture fields, etc., but that does not change the fact…

If they are not native, how did plant propagate seeds? Flies? Wasps? Butterflies?

Re: Spider venom kills varroa mites without harming honeybees

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Honeybees are not native to North America. It is great and currently necessary we use them the way we do. It makes one wonder in the age of AI and evolving farm practices, can we start finding ways to cultivate already-climate-adapted native bees to do the work? Can we leverage adaptations for specific crops? I get it that honeybees work great at pollinating monoculture fields, etc., but that does not change the fact…

If they are not native, how did plant propagate seeds? Flies? Wasps? Butterflies?

Native bees. Apis mellifera are introduced bees across most of the world.

But yes, there are other pollinators like butterflies, moths, flies, birds, etc.

Re: Spider venom kills varroa mites without harming honeybees

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This assumes the mites are what kills the bees. What is that asssumption is flawed?

Nah, it cannot happen that Big Agro's poisons are to fault...

Big Ag was already using those poisons before varroa, so if it was the cause, you would've seen it manifest before varroa.

Re: Spider venom kills varroa mites without harming honeybees

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Some potentially seriously good news there if it all pans out the way it sounds like it might. Fingers crossed for the bees!

This assumes the mites are what kills the bees. What is that asssumption is flawed?

Then all the scientists who study apiary are wrong and someone in the HN comments knows better than all of them.

Congratulations, I look forward to your Nobel prize.

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