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PlayStation can delete all your digital games after 3 years of inactivity (EU)

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Re: PlayStation can delete all your digital games after 3 years of inactivity (EU)

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> The market demanded a middleman Says who?

The results? By random googling I found that they have 200 million active users, who bought 16 billion in gross merchandising value? 18 thousands of games launched there per yer? Arguably if someone is in PC gaming, they at least know what Steam is?

>the results?

Would you say the market demanded Ticketmaster based on the results?

Re: PlayStation can delete all your digital games after 3 years of inactivity (EU)

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The market. If you're an indy game developer, it turns out that just posting .exes on your website gets you a limited reach.

I understand my question was a bit flippant but truly, this doesn’t answer it.

The true answer here is that people went where the games went. And those AAA distributors preferred a middleman doing everything for them in exchange for getting a cut. From there, AA and indies went to the middleman because they more or less had to to compete. Whether or not you consider market capture the whims of the consumer or a natural consequence of capitalism is a more philosophical question to ask.

On a more fundamental level, it seems like people will pick convenience over security and freedom every time the choice pops up. In the land of media, this comes down to choosing to put all your eggs in one basket in exchange for having less control over the products you bought. We've seen this across Netflix, Steam, and Spotify as the largest modern examples.

Re: PlayStation can delete all your digital games after 3 years of inactivity (EU)

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> I am still incredibly salty about losing my “lifetime” license to Minecraft. I kept my Minecraft license after migrating to a Microsoft account. Unsure how it got messed up for you.

I don’t know what to say. I went to the migration site, entered my information-no dice. Contacted support and got no assistance. There are others with a similar experience. Microsoft could have gone above and beyond to manage the forced migration. Instead there was a convoluted process which left many cheated. They could have just punted and automatically emailed brand new entitlement codes to all of the original pur…

Also have a version purchased back when Notch owned. Not played since and have no access. Oh well.

Re: PlayStation can delete all your digital games after 3 years of inactivity (EU)

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Beat me to it. I am still incredibly salty about losing my “lifetime” license to Minecraft. I really am curious to see some of the changes that have happened since I last played (when still owned by Notch), but I refuse to repurchase it.

> I am still incredibly salty about losing my “lifetime” license to Minecraft. I kept my Minecraft license after migrating to a Microsoft account. Unsure how it got messed up for you.

There were two migrations:

1. Minecraft account to Mojang account

2. Mojang account to Microsoft account

Both had a 3-year deadline. If you failed to do either before their deadline, then your "lifetime" Minecraft account is completely dead with no possibility of recovery.

Re: PlayStation can delete all your digital games after 3 years of inactivity (EU)

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And consumers will cry about it for about 5 minutes, then go back to reward the company. When HP started making printer cartridges that expired even when they were still full, people complained—then bought more. When Microsoft let the web stagnate with IE6, people complained, then turned around and did the same thing with Chrome. When Apple deliberately put a bug in the iPhone that caused the Home button to fail, pus…

> When Microsoft let the web stagnate with IE6, people complained, then turned around and did the same thing with Chrome.

How so? I see more complaints about Chrome implementing things that Firefox and/or Safari do not than complaints the other way around.

Re: PlayStation can delete all your digital games after 3 years of inactivity (EU)

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The company that gave up making games because there was more money to be had from inserting itself as a middleman into a previously open platform does not deserve any adoration.

This is categorically untrue. In addition to the games listed below, they are actively developing "Deadlock" which is a pretty rad game in my opinion.

What do you think it means to say "categorically untrue"?

Re: PlayStation can delete all your digital games after 3 years of inactivity (EU)

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I am not sure, but I feel that many of these "Sony bad" type of conversations appear close to something unfavorable being discussed about Xbox. Am I imagining it? The Playstation issue discussed here is certainly not new, but the timing is interesting.

>many of these "Sony bad" type of conversations appear close to something unfavorable being discussed about Xbox.

Both console makers released some devastating news this week. Perhaps by design (But probably not. It's a new financial quarter, the usual time for big news anouncements, good and bad). And this is coming all the backs of rising memory prices driving speculations of 4 figure next gen consoles, GTA 6 costing $80 for part of the game for a case which does not contain a disc, and alleged reports of digital dynamic pricing.

It hasn't been a good few months for anyone in the games industry. Even Nintendo is begrudgingly increasing prices by end of summer.

Re: PlayStation can delete all your digital games after 3 years of inactivity (EU)

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When Apple deliberately put a bug in the iPhone that caused the Home button to fail, pushing people to buy the next model, people got upset—and then bought the next one anyway. I'm amazed nobody remembers that one; it was such a huge deal at the time. And there is not a single link to articles about it anymore. That one, I don't remember either. Are you sure you aren't confusing it with Batterygate? But yes: point ta…

Oh no, I remember well. At some point, everyone at the software home button on their phone setup, because the physical button was sometimes working and sometimes not. Apple issued a statement saying it was a hardware failure and there was nothing they could do. A hacker later on proved they were lying by patching the software and showing the problem went away. That's why I'm scrapbooking every article about the trump…

>That's why I'm scrapbooking every article about the trump administration right now. This time period is so wild people will doubt it really existed.

On one hand, I think there will be entire subgenres of literature and media dedicated to this time, the way we spend entire units in the US on WWII.

On the other hand, I also know there will be a lot of "not-MAGA" people who will say they didn't vote for Trump (they did) but defend to death how these times weren't that bad with all the same soundbites you hear today. We're way too connected (and Trump way too loud) to reasonably do Trump denialism, so the next best path will be Trump sympathizing

Re: PlayStation can delete all your digital games after 3 years of inactivity (EU)

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Except for the hundred thousands if not millions of people who lost their Minecraft account due to the way Microsoft handled multiple successive account migrations, also including the many accounts that were stolen due to lax security. And since digital ownership legislation is a joke consumers have pretty much no recourse.

You had years to move your Minecraft account

Is two years period supposed to be a lot? What if a person haven't played the game for five years (which happens quite often) then comes back and sees that it's gone?
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