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Has America Crossed the Asshole Threshold?

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Re: Has America Crossed the Asshole Threshold?

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I didn't notice any obvious markers, weird prose, or meandering in this one.

It's clearly written by AI. I find it interesting that some people recognize it immediately and others do not. I don't know what to make of it.

Yep. Very slop-like. I found it grating and had to stop reading, even though I thought the subject was interesting.

Re: Has America Crossed the Asshole Threshold?

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I learned that I don't need to agree 100% with an author's premises to find value in what she writes. She is a bit partisan, but on the other side, it is about time for us on the right to completely re-evaluate MAGA, and go about creating a third way, distinct from the old mainstream republicanism of the McCains and Bushes, but also critical of what MAGA turned out to be.

what would consider to be the essential characteristics of a third way?

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“ Republicans who voted for Donald Trump in 2020 and deny the results of that election. The dividing line is the denial itself: the willingness to hold that an election was stolen in the absence of evidence. That single belief turns out to be a genetic marker. Everything else travels with it.” He doesn’t seem to be talking about conservatives or republicans broadly; seems like he’s focusing on a much smaller minority…

Do you seriously buy the "explanation" that "liberals vote so much more by mail-in" that both Pennsylvania and Georgia flipped even though Trump was largely ahead in both? Two states that, btw, were won by the Republicans in 2024. Which should give some food for thoughts too. I think Trump is both crazy and senile now but I also think he may be the only US president to have ever won the elections three times. Now I d…

"liberals vote so much more by mail-in"

They do. See page 4. (https://electionlab.mit.edu/sites/default/files/2020-12/How-...)

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I would believe she wrote it in this style if you can point to any of her writing pre 2022 that is similar in style. Does that exist? Genuinely curious.

“Carlyn Beccia is an award-winning author and illustrator of 13 books.”

All of her books seem to be children's books and many of the 13 are illustrator credits.

I found this blog from late 2021: https://medium.com/grimhistorian/coffee-the-sexiest-drink-in...

I can only see the beginning of it, but to me the style is obviously different from the thread's linked article.

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Like what?

> Hesiod felt it. Plato theorized it. Polybius mechanized it. Sallust prosecuted it (while guilty). Ibn Khaldun put it on a timer. Five civilizations, twenty-one centuries, one diagnosis. The only thing missing was proof. > For most of history, “too many assholes ruin everything” remained a vibe. A well-documented, five-civilization vibe, but a vibe. Then, in the twentieth century, it became math. > Sallust, it turns…

The trend that bothers me the most is excessive use of the em dash accompanied by awkward use of semicolons.

> Cooperators who are scattered among cheaters get eaten alive — the lone honest man in a crooked ward is not noble, mathematically speaking; he’s lunch.

There's also the not-quite-right logical link between clauses (I see this a lot in Opus output):

> Parasites are a constant; every era grows them to maximum greed, because that’s what parasites do.

("era grows them" doesn't fit with "that's what parasites do." If the era grows them, the parasites aren't doing their own growth.)

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No it's not, your detector is broken.

Seems like yours is? FWIW, on your own blog, the most recent post also reads as at least AI helped "Navigator Theory". This sentence in particular sticks out: "They affect what the person notices, what they dismiss, what they measure, what they trust, and what they do when reality pushes back." The one earlier post I read does not ("toxicity of ideas"). And fwiw, online detectors seems to agree with my own judgement…

Cunningham's law. :)

Re: Has America Crossed the Asshole Threshold?

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> Hesiod felt it. Plato theorized it. Polybius mechanized it. Sallust prosecuted it (while guilty). Ibn Khaldun put it on a timer. Five civilizations, twenty-one centuries, one diagnosis. The only thing missing was proof. > For most of history, “too many assholes ruin everything” remained a vibe. A well-documented, five-civilization vibe, but a vibe. Then, in the twentieth century, it became math. > Sallust, it turns…

Yeah, I've changed my evaluation. The lists didn't do it for me, because they don't follow the usual rule-of-three, but the "genetic marker ... travels" line seems egregious. And the "not X, but Y".

More recent Claude models tend to do these new longer lists. I think they've trained it on more varied sentence structures to give it a less monotonous feeling when reading, which worked, but now it has this tendency to go for "punchy" in a way that becomes grating.

> A thing. Another thing. More thing. But this thing. Four things, one common thread through time.

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It's remarkable that this article talks about Tammany Hall, Plato, and MAGA, without mentioning the throughline among them: immigration. Tammany Hall’s peak century coincided with mass immigration: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tammany_Hall . As Wikipedia explains: "In the 1840s, over 130,000 Irish immigrants arrived in New York City to escape the Great Famine, arriving in poverty and joining scores of thousands of t…

Tammany Hall did not happen because they were immigrants it happened because someone thought it was a good idea to have people who could not even write their own name vote. Democracy hinges on a well educated populace who actually gives a shit- which as we all know has not and never will happen.

The worst form of government- except for all the others so far tried.

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It's remarkable that this article talks about Tammany Hall, Plato, and MAGA, without mentioning the throughline among them: immigration. Tammany Hall’s peak century coincided with mass immigration: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tammany_Hall . As Wikipedia explains: "In the 1840s, over 130,000 Irish immigrants arrived in New York City to escape the Great Famine, arriving in poverty and joining scores of thousands of t…

Tammany Hall did not happen because they were immigrants it happened because someone thought it was a good idea to have people who could not even write their own name vote. Democracy hinges on a well educated populace who actually gives a shit- which as we all know has not and never will happen. The worst form of government- except for all the others so far tried.

But they couldn’t read because they were poor immigrants to a country that at the time led the world in literacy. The literacy rate in New England for adult men was 90% in 1776. It’s not a surprise that New England probably remains the best governed part of the country.

And there are instances of democracy working well. Alexis de Tocqueville described a healthy democracy existing in the midwest in 1831. Tammany Hall was particularly bad and corrupt even by the standards of the time.

Re: Has America Crossed the Asshole Threshold?

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I also got strong AI vibes, but I enjoyed the content. I thought it was a interesting summary of topics I've read many times before and even if the content was AI-assisted, does it matter? It seems there was a strong guiding hand in presenting a popular topic in a new way.

It matters because I don't like the style. I wouldn't like it if a human wrote it. I don't like the style so much that I won't read things written with it. So maybe she had something interesting to say, but it was not communicated to me because I bounced.

And then you came to tell the rest of us that "you did not read it?" Why do that?
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